Micha, I am up and running with X :-))
> check that you have /dev/mouse, it should be a symbolic link to > /dev/psaux (do ls -l and see what the file name is). If it doesn't > exists either provide /dev/psaux as the mouse location for the setup > process or do as root > > ln -s psaux /dev/mouse > > Using ImPS/2 instead if PS/2 may also help but it won't change > behavior, just features. > > This is my best bet for now. It was a good bet. After this I had mouse support in xf86cfg. There was just one more hurdle, xf86cfg was saving my configuration changes to \usr\lib\X11R6\XF86Config, but with the knowledge I gained from your analysis I figured where to save the configuration. Many thanks for your efforts. I really appreciate it. KDE looks great! David > -----Original Message----- > From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 3 May 2004 10:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Newby can't get Xwindows running > > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:52:17AM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > > From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:13PM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > > > As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation > of > > > > the problem is confused. > > > > > > > > I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 > different > > > > machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I > have > > > > not been able to get XWindows running. > > > > > > > > > > If its a workstation and not a server I would get the new installer > > > beta (sarge) and install either testing or unstable. The version of X > > > there and the kernel version is much newer and could solve some > > > problems, also IIRC the installer has some hardware recognition (don't > > > know if for X though). > > > > > > I looked at the X version in stable and it looks like its 3.3.6 (which > > > is very-very old). If you want to use stable go to > > > http://www.backports.org/ and see how to add the backport packages > > > (there is a HOWTO and installation instructions) and > > > upgrade X (its 4.2.1 there although unstable and testing already > > > have 4.3). > > > > > > unstable is more stable then it sounds (I rarely have problems and > then > > > it will just inhibit me from installing problematic packages unless I > > > bypass things), testing is ok now since its entering a freezing state > > > on its way to become stable, although usually unstable is more stable > > > and secure then testing. For a desktop unstable is usually the best > > > solution (unless you want to run stable with back-ports). > > > > > > You could also try the knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/), > > > meppis (http://www.mepis.org/) which have good hardware recognition, > > > can install to the hardisk or run of a cd and are based on mix of > > > debian testing/unstable. > > > > I will take your advice and get sarge. Meanwhile I don't tolerate > > disobedient software and will persist with woody a little longer - it's > a > > learning experience! > > > > My main interest in linux is as an alternative to nt server, so the > server > > functionality will be important once I start to find my way around. > > > > Everything has server functionality in linux. Stable is mostly meant > for production servers where you don't care about features and don't > want much change. Its for minimal maintenance rock solid servers. > > > > > > > > I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ > > > > > > > > It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a > message > > > > appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key > > > > doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message > might > > > > flash past before I can write them down) > > > > > > > > I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb > > > > Phillips SL200 19" monitor > > > > MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port > > > > > > > > The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it > does > > > > not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following > > > > lines which seem significant: > > > > > > > > > > could you post the output of running startx (try also as root to make > > > sure that there is no permission problems) and the file > > > > how do I pipe the output from startx to a file? > > > > startx > startx.out 2>&1 > > This will pipe the standard output to the file startx.out (file > descriptor 1) and then pipe standard error (file descriptor 2) to the > standard output. > > The order is important, since if you pipe stderr to stdout before > piping stdout, then stderr will go to the screen (it goes to where the > original file descriptor is pointing at the time of the pipe command). > > > > > > /var/log/XFree86.0.log which may help to see the error messages. > > > > > > > here is var/log/XFree86.0.log ..... > > > > > > This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any > > way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, > > please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository > > (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) > > > > XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System > > Ok, its 4.1 and not 3.3.6 which is much better. It would also mean that > what I said in previous mail about /etc/X11/XF86Config needs to be > changed to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (debian specific change in setup file > name to allow versions 3 and 4 to live in parallel) > > > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) > > Release Date: 21 December 2001 > > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is > > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before > > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) > > Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.3-bk2 i686 [ELF] > > Module Loader present > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon May 3 09:01:35 2004 > > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" > > (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) > > (**) | |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor" > > (**) | |-->Device "Generic Video Card" > > (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" > > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > > (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" > > (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > > (**) XKB: model: "pc104" > > (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > (**) XKB: layout: "us" > > (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled > > (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" > > (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse" > > It is looking for two mice here, one called "Configured Mouse" and one > called "Generic Mouse", there will be two input sections fro these and > IIRC one will be ps2 and one usb. > > > (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. > > Entry deleted from font path. > > (**) FontPath set to > > > "unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/u > sr > > > /lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts > /S > > peedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" > > (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > > (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > > (--) using VT number 9 > > > > This is strange, it should be VT 7 I believe, but not a problem in > itself. > > > (WW) Cannot open APM > > (II) Module ABI versions: > > XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 > > XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 > > XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 > > XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 > > XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 > > (II) Loader running on linux > > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 > > (II) Loading font Bitmap > > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 > > (II) PCI: Config type is 1 > > (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 > > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > > (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card 0000,0000 rev 81 class 06,00,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 > hdr > > 01 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1106,0000 rev 40 class 06,01,00 > hdr > > 80 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card 0000,0000 rev 06 class 01,01,8a > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card 0000,0000 rev 40 class 06,00,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:5: chip 1106,3058 card 1462,3400 rev 50 class 04,01,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10ec,8139 card a0a0,0027 rev 10 class 02,00,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 102b,0521 card 102b,ff03 rev 01 class 03,00,00 > hdr > > 00 > > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > > (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > > (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) > > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > > (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0c (VGA_EN is set) > > (II) Bus 1 I/O range: > > (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x3000000) MX[B] > > (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0 0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] > > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) > > (II) Bus -1 I/O range: > > (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: > > (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: > > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is > set) > > (II) Bus -1 I/O range: > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > > (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > > (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > > (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) Matrox MGA G200 AGP rev 1, Mem @ 0xd7000000/24, > > 0xd4000000/14, 0xd5000000/23 > > It finds the card here and says its AGP so you will need the agpgart > module loaded, but it looks like it is from the output farther on. > > > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > > [0] -1 0 0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E > > [1] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E > > [2] -1 0 0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [3] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [4] -1 0 0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) > > [5] -1 0 0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [6] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [7] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [8] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [9] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [10] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [11] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > > [0] -1 0 0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E > > [1] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E > > [2] -1 0 0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [3] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [4] -1 0 0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) > > [5] -1 0 0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [6] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [7] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [8] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [9] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [10] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [11] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > (II) All system resource ranges: > > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > > [5] -1 0 0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E > > [6] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E > > [7] -1 0 0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [8] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [9] -1 0 0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) > > [10] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > [12] -1 0 0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [13] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [14] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [15] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [16] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [17] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [18] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a > > (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > > (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > > (II) Loading font Bitmap > > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a > > (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Server Extension > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > > (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a > > (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading sub module "drm" > > (II) LoadModule: "drm" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a > > (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a > > (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Server Extension > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > Did you install the dri libraries? Its looking loading the graphic > acceleration here. Shouldn't be the problem for normal but may take some > fiddling to work properly later on o get acceleration going. > > > (II) Loading extension SHAPE > > (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD > > (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS > > (II) Loading extension SYNC > > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > > (II) Loading extension XC-MISC > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc > > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > > (II) Loading extension DPMS > > (II) Loading extension FontCache > > (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP > > (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information > > (II) Loading extension XVideo > > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > > (II) LoadModule: "freetype" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a > > (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.1.9 > > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 > > (II) Loading font FreeType > > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a > > (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" > > (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" > > (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a > > (II) Loading extension GLX > > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a > > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (II) LoadModule: "pex5" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a > > (II) Module pex5: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Server Extension > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading extension X3D-PEX > > (II) LoadModule: "record" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a > > (II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.13.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Server Extension > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading extension RECORD > > (II) LoadModule: "speedo" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a > > (II) Module speedo: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 > > (II) Loading font Speedo > > (II) LoadModule: "type1" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a > > (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 > > (II) Loading font Type1 > > (II) Loading font CID > > (II) LoadModule: "vbe" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > > (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (II) LoadModule: "xie" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a > > (II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Server Extension > > ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 > > (II) Loading extension XIE > > (II) LoadModule: "mga" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o > > (II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.1 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > Its loading the mga module fine. > > > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o > > (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2 > > (II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, > > mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, mgag400 > > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 > > (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device > > (--) Chipset mgag200 found > > Recognizes the card. > > > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > > [5] -1 0 0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E > > [6] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E > > [7] -1 0 0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [8] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [9] -1 0 0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) > > [10] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > [12] -1 0 0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [13] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [14] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [15] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [16] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [17] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [18] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > (II) resource ranges after probing: > > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > > [5] -1 0 0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E > > [6] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E > > [7] -1 0 0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [8] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [9] -1 0 0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) > > [10] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > > [11] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > > [12] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > > [13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > [15] -1 0 0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [16] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [17] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [18] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [19] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [20] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [21] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [22] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > > [23] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > > (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" > > (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a > > (II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (**) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > > (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888 > > (**) MGA(0): Option "UseFBDev" "true" > > Might try to disable fbdev in the setup and see if it helps. > > > (II) Loading sub module "mga_hal" > > (II) LoadModule: "mga_hal" > > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mga_hal > > (II) UnloadModule: "mga_hal" > > (EE) MGA: Failed to load module "mga_hal" (module does not exist, 0) > > (II) MGA(0): Matrox HAL module not found - using builtin mode setup > > instead > > This is saying that there was an error loading mag_hal so it is using > built in mode setup instead. It doesn't seem like its stopping here. > Found this information on mga had if it interests you: > > The MGA hal is a closed-source hardware access library from > Matrox. XFree86 includes the ability to make a loadable module > using this library to add features to XFree86's Matrox support. > If the loadable module is present it enables TV Out and dualhead > for G400 cards (non-G400 dualhead cards don't need it). If it > isn't found, an error message is printed about it being missing > but it's not a problem unless you need these features. > > Seems to be a known error, but not the problem from the messages. > > > (--) MGA(0): Chipset: "mgag200" > > (==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode > > (**) MGA(0): Using framebuffer device > > (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" > > (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a > > (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.0.2 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 > > (II) UnloadModule: "mga" > > (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a > > (II) UnloadModule: "vgahw" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a > > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > > > Fatal server error: > > no screens found > > > > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send > > the full server output, not just the last messages. > > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". > > Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------- end of XFree86.0.log ---------- > > > > > > " Warning couldn't open module mga_hal > > > > " MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (Module does not exist, 0) > > > > > > > > > > Try using the generic vga driver as a start and see if that solves the > > > problem first. If that works it will be easier to activate the mga > > > driver next. Also try doing modprobe agpgart (assuming you have agp, > don't > > > remember if accelerated pci also uses agpgart or pcigart, try both). > > > > > > > I did this using xf86config but XFree86.0.log suggests that X is still > > trying to load MGA > > > > > > " EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > > > > > > > > > Try reducing the resolution and refresh rate as a start to 1024x768 > and > > > 75HZ as a maximum, maybe its having problems with recognizing your > > > monitor. Again if this works its easier to improve afterwords. IIRC > > > there is an simple and novice options for setting up the monitor > > > refresh rates which should let you choose something close as a start. > > > > > > > did this > > > > > > " Fatal Server error no screens found > > > > > > > > if I run xf86cfg, it goes to VGA mode and brings up the XWindows > > > > configuration modules, but the mouse doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > Could be that you mouse isn't configured properly. X will crash in > such > > > a case and give errors that seem to indicate screen problems instead > of > > > mouse problems. I ran into this several times and it was usually the > > > last place where people look. > > > > > > What mouse do you have (brand and ps/2 or usb?). Post the generated > > > /etc/X11/XF86Config. > > > > > > > It is a basic Microsoft(TM) 2 button mouse attached to PS/2. > > > > I have tried configuring as MS mouse and PS/2 mouse (I think it set to > PS/2 > > now). > > > > /etc/X11/XF86Config follows..... > > > > >From the logs I need /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. From first look it doesn't > look like this file matches the logs. See if XF86Config-4 exists also. > The first thing I can thing of: > > check that you have /dev/mouse, it should be a symbolic link to > /dev/psaux (do ls -l and see what the file name is). If it doesn't > exists either provide /dev/psaux as the mouse location for the setup > process or do as root > > ln -s psaux /dev/mouse > > Using ImPS/2 instead if PS/2 may also help but it won't change > behavior, just features. > > This is my best bet for now. > I have to go now, so if it doesn't help I will look farther a bit later. > > > # File generated by xf86config. > > > > # > > # Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. > > # > > # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining > a > > # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the > "Software"), > > # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without > limitation > > # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, > sublicense, > > # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the > > # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: > > # > > # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be > included in > > # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. > > # > > # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, > EXPRESS OR > > # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF > MERCHANTABILITY, > > # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT > SHALL > > # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER > LIABILITY, > > # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT > OF > > # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE > > # SOFTWARE. > > # > > # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project > shall > > # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or > other > > # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the > > # XFree86 Project. > > # > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of > > # this file. > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Module section -- this section is used to specify > > # which dynamically loadable modules to load. > > # ********************************************************************** > > # > > Section "Module" > > > > # This loads the DBE extension module. > > > > Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension > > > > # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables > > # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. > > SubSection "extmod" > > Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA > extension > > EndSubSection > > > > # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules > > Load "type1" > > Load "freetype" > > > > # This loads the GLX module > > # Load "glx" > > > > EndSection > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > Section "Files" > > > > # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the > > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally > > # no need to change the default. > > > > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > > > > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated > together), > > # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath > > # command (or a combination of both methods) > > # > > # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or > other > > # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo > directory > > # to the end of this list (or comment them out). > > # > > > > # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > > > # The module search path. The default path is shown here. > > > > # ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > > > > EndSection > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Server flags section. > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > Section "ServerFlags" > > > > # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is > > # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may > > # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging > > > > # Option "NoTrapSignals" > > > > # Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence > > # This allows clients to receive this key event. > > > > # Option "DontZap" > > > > # Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching > > # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. > > > > # Option "Dont Zoom" > > > > # Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With > > # it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes, > > # but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will > > # receive a protocol error. > > > > # Option "DisableVidModeExtension" > > > > # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. > > > > # Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune" > > > > # Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device > > # (mouse and keyboard) settings. > > > > # Option "DisableModInDev" > > > > # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to > > # change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset). > > > > # Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev" > > > > EndSection > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Input devices > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Core keyboard's InputDevice section > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > Identifier "Keyboard1" > > Driver "Keyboard" > > # For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard"). > > # When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris), > > # uncomment the following line. > > > > # Option "Protocol" "Xqueue" > > > > Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > > > > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) > > # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" > > > > # Option "LeftAlt" "Meta" > > # Option "RightAlt" "ModeShift" > > > > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the > > # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. > > # keyboard, you will probably want to use: > > # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: > > # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" > > # > > # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. > > # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: > > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > > # or: > > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > > # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > > # > > # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and > > # control keys, use: > > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" > > > > # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86 > > # Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > > # Option "XkbModel" "pc101" > > # Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > # Option "XkbVariant" "" > > # Option "XkbOptions" "" > > > > # Option "XkbDisable" > > > > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > > Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Core Pointer's InputDevice section > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > # Identifier and driver > > > > Identifier "Mouse1" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Protocol" "PS/2" > > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" > > > > # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment > > # the following line. > > > > # Option "Protocol" "Xqueue" > > > > # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In > > # almost every case these lines should be omitted. > > > > # Option "BaudRate" "9600" > > # Option "SampleRate" "150" > > > > # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice > > # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) > > > > # Option "Emulate3Buttons" > > # Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50" > > > > # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice > > > > # Option "ChordMiddle" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Other input device sections > > # this is optional and is required only if you > > # are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer > > # to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options. > > # ********************************************************************** > > # > > # Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier "Mouse2" > > # Driver "mouse" > > # Option "Protocol" "MouseMan" > > # Option "Device" "/dev/mouse2" > > # EndSection > > # > > # Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier "spaceball" > > # Driver "magellan" > > # Option "Device" "/dev/cua0" > > # EndSection > > # > > # Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier "spaceball2" > > # Driver "spaceorb" > > # Option "Device" "/dev/cua0" > > # EndSection > > # > > # Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier "touchscreen0" > > # Driver "microtouch" > > # Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" > > # Option "MinX" "1412" > > # Option "MaxX" "15184" > > # Option "MinY" "15372" > > # Option "MaxY" "1230" > > # Option "ScreenNumber" "0" > > # Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled" > > # Option "ButtonNumber" "1" > > # Option "SendCoreEvents" > > # EndSection > > # > > # Section "InputDevice" > > # Identifier "touchscreen1" > > # Driver "elo2300" > > # Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" > > # Option "MinX" "231" > > # Option "MaxX" "3868" > > # Option "MinY" "3858" > > # Option "MaxY" "272" > > # Option "ScreenNumber" "0" > > # Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled" > > # Option "ButtonThreshold" "17" > > # Option "ButtonNumber" "1" > > # Option "SendCoreEvents" > > # EndSection > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Monitor section > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > # Any number of monitor sections may be present > > > > Section "Monitor" > > > > Identifier "My Monitor" > > > > # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. > > # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. > > > > HorizSync 31.5 - 82.0 > > > > # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync > > # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies > > # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies > > > > # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. > > # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. > > > > VertRefresh 40-150 > > > > EndSection > > > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Graphics device section > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > # Any number of graphics device sections may be present > > > > # Standard VGA Device: > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Standard VGA" > > VendorName "Unknown" > > BoardName "Unknown" > > > > # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to > override > > # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified. > > > > # Chipset "generic" > > > > # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver > > # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver > > # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line > > # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this > section. > > > > Driver "vga" > > # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices > > # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device > > # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI > > # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not > > # normally be included unless there is more than one video device > > # intalled. > > > > # BusID "PCI:0:10:0" > > > > # VideoRam 256 > > > > # Clocks 25.2 28.3 > > > > EndSection > > > > # Device configured by xf86config: > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Unsupported VGA compatible" > > Driver "vga" > > # unsupported card > > #VideoRam 4096 > > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > > EndSection > > > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # Screen sections > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes > > # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen > section > > # may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen" > > # option. > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Screen 1" > > Device "Unsupported VGA compatible" > > Monitor "My Monitor" > > DefaultDepth 16 > > > > Subsection "Display" > > Depth 8 > > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" > > ViewPort 0 0 > > EndSubsection > > Subsection "Display" > > Depth 16 > > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" > > ViewPort 0 0 > > EndSubsection > > Subsection "Display" > > Depth 24 > > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" > > ViewPort 0 0 > > EndSubsection > > EndSection > > > > # ********************************************************************** > > # ServerLayout sections. > > # ********************************************************************** > > > > # Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes > > # the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout > > # section may be specified from the X server command line with the > > # "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used. > > # When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section > > # is used alone. > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > > > # The Identifier line must be present > > Identifier "Simple Layout" > > > > # Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally > > # the relative position of other screens. The four names after > > # primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right > > # of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the > > # right of screen 1. > > > > Screen "Screen 1" > > > > # Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and > > # optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be > > # used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and > > # "SendCoreEvents". > > > > InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > ------------ end of XF86Config --------------- > > > > I hope all this means something to you. > > > > Many thanks for your assistance. > > > > > > I run xf86config and re-enter the hardware specs (to the best of my > > > > ability), but this makes no difference. > > > > > > > > I am basic level user with unix (some years ago), and without gui > feel > > > like > > > > I have been thrown in the deep-end in a tied sack. If I had XWindows > I > > > could > > > > probably start swimming. > > > > > > > > David > > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > David Moore > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > > > > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED]