One of these days I shall actually remember taht it is not safe to 
click "reply" on the Debian list.  Sorry, John. :-(

On Tuesday 29 October 2013 16:34:15 John Hasler wrote:
>  GUI network manager such as NetworkManager.  These don't always
> get along well with manual network configuration.

A masterly understatement!

The problem can be solved by removing Network Manager.  I always do 
this if landed with it.  If I want my network managed, I then install 
wicd.

HTH
Lisi


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