* Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 16:48]: > Which of the groups/people on [1] do you consider delegates? Why or > why not? Would you change this?
Before answering this mail, I talked to Pasc on IRC for a while. Pasc was added as a listmaster during my term as DPL, and has done excellent work, especially with helping users with list related matters. I asked him if he, from his point of view, considers himself a delegate. He said he did not know. My question next question was, "Has this been a problem so far, working with me and others?", and Pasc answered, "it has never been a problem for me". I was truly wondering about the answer to this question because I'm in quite regular contact with him about listmaster matters, and our communication is working very well. Anyway, I take a very pragmatic approach on this. Some of it is outlined in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200311/msg00041.html In general, I don't care about the "status" of people (also see the question about women; I don't discriminate based on sex/gender, nationality, or "delegate" status). In free software, we usually don't carry around big titles (the DPL being one major exception). What I care about is getting work done. I care about creating the best free operating system out there! If there is a problem, it has to be fixed -- no matter if that person is a delegate, a developer or a sponsored person. I stay in contact with many people in the project to see how their work is going, and how I can help them getting their work done. If there are problems, any kind of problems in the project, I, as the DPL, see it as my responsibility to make sure those problems are being addressed. In summary, I think we should ask questions like "is the work by these people or in these areas being performed properly", "is their work documented properly and transparent" rather than wondering about the status. But if you do care about titles, then, yes, I consider all of these people as delegates (with the exception of the Technical Committee, see next question). All of them perform duties in the spirit of a delegate as defined by the constitution. > Do you believe the Tech Committee is effective in its role for the > project? No, I am extremely disappointed with the role of the Technical Committee. I actually talked to Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> about this at FOSDEM two weeks ago. While I think that we should in most cases come to a consensus by discussing matters on our mailing lists, I think it's important to have a healthy Technical Committee just in case. When I became DPL last year, I wanted to use my delegation power to re-active the committee, but found out that the Technical Committee is exempted as per the constitution. Of course, if you read what I wrote above, you'll see that this is a bad excuse for not fixing the problem - the problem has to be fixed even if they are not delegates. I admit I didn't do that, which was partly because there were more important things to handle and fix. However, as time goes on and the Technical Committee becomes even more stale, it has become a priority for me to do something about the situation. Having people on the Technical Committee who don't have a single package in the archive or whose packages have been orphaned because they were not maintained is simply not how it should be! -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]