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I second this resolution too. On Fri, 16 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi folks, > > This GR was first broached on December 14th, 18th and 19th, > 2000, by Raul Miller. A election methods committee was set up to > examine the issue and come up with recommendations, and a cast of > characters got together to put this final form in place. The > discussion was revived on Aug 21st, 2002, where the recommendations > of the committee were further refined (espescially adding the super > majority mechanisms) by people on this mailing list. > > I would like to thank, in particular, Raul Miller, Mike > Ossipoff, Norman Petry, Anthony Towns, Buddha Buck, Jochen Voss, and > several other contributors from the mailing list who helped this > along. I apologize to the people whose name I haven't mentioned; lack > of space prohibits me from expresseing my appreciation adequately. > > I am formally proposing that we adopt this resolution be > adopted, and I am asking for seconds for this resolution; we need at > least 5 other developers to second this for this to go anywhere. > > ====================================================================== > > PROPOSAL > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying: > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Under 4.2 Procedure [for developers during a general resolution or > election], change item 3 to read: > > 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and > results are not revealed during the voting period; after the > vote the Project Secretary lists all the votes cast. The voting > period is 2 weeks, but may be varied by up to 1 week by the > Project Leader. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Under 5.2 Appointment of project leader, change item 7 to read: > > 7. The decision will be made using the method specified in section > A.6 of the Standard Resolution Procedure. The quorum is the > same as for a General Resolution (s.4.2) and the default > option is "None Of The Above". > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Under 6.1 Powers [of the technical committee], change item 7 to read: > > 7. Appoint the Chairman of the Technical Committee. The Chairman > is elected by the Committee from its members. All members of > the committee are automatically nominated; the committee votes > starting one week before the post will become vacant (or > immediately, if it is already too late). The members may vote > by public acclamation for any fellow committee member, > including themselves; there is no default option. The vote > finishes when all the members have voted, or when the voting > period has ended. The result is determined using the method > specified in section A.6 of the Standard Resolution Procedure. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Under A.2 Calling for a vote, change items 2 and 4 to read > > 2. The proposer or any sponsor of a resolution may call for a vote on that > resolution and all related amendments. > 4. The minimum discussion period is counted from the time the last > formal amendment was accepted, or since the whole resolution > was proposed if no amendments have been proposed and accepted. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Replace A.3 with: > > A.3. Voting procedure > > 1. Each resolution and its related amendments is voted on in a > single ballot that includes an option for the original > resolution, each amendment, and the default option (where > applicable). > 2. The default option must not have any supermajority requirements. > Options which do not have an explicit supermajority requirement > have a 1:1 majority requirement. > 3. The votes are counted according to the the rules in A.6. The > default option is "Further Discussion", unless specified > otherwise. > 4. In cases of doubt the Project Secretary shall decide on matters > of procedure. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Replace A.5 with: > > A.5. Expiry > > If a proposed resolution has not been discussed, amended, voted on or > otherwise dealt with for 4 weeks the secretary may issue a statement > that the issue is being withdrawn. If none of the sponsors of any > of the proposals object within a week, the issue is withdrawn. > > The secretary may also include suggestions on how to proceed, > if appropriate. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Replace A.6 with: > > A.6 Vote Counting > > 1. Each voter's ballot ranks the options being voted on. Not all > options need be ranked. Ranked options are considered > preferred to all unranked options. Voters may rank options > equally. Unranked options are considered to be ranked equally > with one another. Details of how ballots may be filled out > will be included in the Call For Votes. > 2. If the ballot has a quorum requirement R any options other > than the default option which do not receive at least R votes > ranking that option above the default option are dropped from > consideration. > 3. Any (non-default) option which does not defeat the default option > by its required majority ratio is dropped from consideration. > a. Given two options A and B, V(A,B) is the number of voters > who prefer option A over option B. > b. An option A defeats the default option D by a majority > ratio N, if V(A,D) is strictly greater than N * V(D,A). > c. If a supermajority of S:1 is required for A, its majority ratio > is S; otherwise, its majority ratio is 1. > 4. From the list of undropped options, we generate a list of > pairwise defeats. > a. An option A defeats an option B, if V(A,B) is strictly greater > than V(B,A). > 5. From the list of [undropped] pairwise defeats, we generate a > set of transitive defeats. > a. An option A transitively defeats an option C if A defeats > C or if there is some other option B where A defeats B AND > B transitively defeats C. > 6. We construct the Schwartz set from the set of transitive defeats. > a. An option A is in the Schwartz set if for all options B, > either A transitively defeats B, or B does not transitively > defeat A. > 7. If there are defeats between options in the Schwartz set, > we drop the weakest such defeats from the list of pairwise > defeats, and return to step 5. > a. A defeat (A,X) is weaker than a defeat (B,Y) if V(A,X) > is less than V(B,Y). Also, (A,X) is weaker than (B,Y) if > V(A,X) is equal to V(B,Y) and V(X,A) is greater than V(Y,B). > b. A weakest defeat is a defeat that has no other defeat weaker > than it. There may be more than one such defeat. > 8. If there are no defeats within the Schwartz set, then the winner > is chosen from the options in the Schwartz set. If there is > only one such option, it is the winner. If there are multiple > options, the elector with the casting vote chooses which of those > options wins. > > RATIONALE: Options which the voters rank above the default option > are options they find acceptable. Options ranked below the default > options are options they find unacceptable. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Rationale: > > If the Constitutional rules are strictly followed, then, by rule 3, > all options that are dominated [pairwise beaten] by at least one other > option are discarded, and references to them in the ballot papers will > be ignored. That means that unless there's an "undominated" > alternative ("option"), every alternative will be discarded and > deleted from the ballots. > > We've had a number of problems from ambiguities in our constitutional > vote tallying procedure. Changing the voting procedure would give us > the same results on historical votes as the existing procedure, and > would not suffer the ambiguities of the current procedure. > > manoj > > -- > Confessions may be good for the soul, but they are bad for the > reputation. Lord Thomas Dewar > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> > 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E > 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C > > > - -- Our mission: make IPv6 the default IP protocol "We are on a mission from God" - Elwood Blues http://www.itojun.org/paper/itojun-nanog-200210-ipv6isp/mgp00004.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+xVNYhCzbekR3nhgRAqL6AKClpwlw8AfOVyWhj9onO2nEhEQMTwCfW1xK 7RblEOfXEwsa6/k0A900Qeg= =5hw2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----