What does networksolutions and verisign fail that you whitelist them?

Darrell

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Request

Would you mind sharing your list? Mine, sadly enough, only has 8 rules
currently, all except two are for mailing I get that are false
positives.

My current list is:

MAILFROM 0 STARTSWITH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM 0 CONTAINS @declude.com
MAILFROM 0 CONTAINS @verisign.com
MAILFROM 0 CONTAINS @verisign.net
MAILFROM 0 CONTAINS @networksolutions.com
MAILFROM 0 CONTAINS aarl.org
MAILFROM 0 STARTSWITH bounce-ethnicjokes-
BODY 0 CONTAINS Beliefnet, Inc. All rights reserved.

So far the list only includes entries I have had problems in the past
with,
the verisign ones were whitelist entries, and I may refine them to
specific
mailings from them.

Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Kaylor,
Domain Mail Administrator
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Request


That's what I did...using the address list, I give it a weight of -140,
which is more than the total of ALL of my tests added together...

Bill


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Frolick
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:53 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Request


I decided I will start using filter file to "whitelist" legitimate
mailing
lists from listservers that also support spammers, since they seem to be
the
bulk of my false positives.  I am giving them all 0 weight in the list,
but
will give the whole test a very high negative weight.  I currently only
have
a few examples, since I am not that aggressive yet in my weights, but I
welcome any suggestions. This should allow everyone to be much more
aggressive.  Maybe a version of the filter test that is a whitelist
wouldn't
be a bad idea.  The filter tests allow for more flexability than the
standard whitelist, leaving in many cases less room for error.

Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Request


Rick,
I completely agree with you.
I don't like risking corruption to the global.cfg file through a ASP/CGI
script error.
Our idea is to "turn up" the weight tests and whitelist all of our
customer base.

The external whitelsit makes it easier to keep that update.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Request
>
>
> Hi Bob,
> There are a few reasons I want/need the whitelist separate.
> One being that it will be easy to push a copy of the
> whitelist via ftp to each relevant system instead of manually
> or programaticly attaching to each server and editing the
> global.cfg. Secondly the global.cfg file is basicly static
> infomation aside from the whitelist, so interfacing with it
> programaticly seems like wasted effort to me. I don't believe
> Scott intended the whitelist to be used as much as it is but
> unfortunately the amount of legit servers needing
> whitelisting is enough to make the whitelist an important
> feature of Declude.
>
> The level of modification will just be adding and removing
> white and black list entries as well as word and phrase
> filter lines. We can do this via the web and email.
>
> Have a great day!
> Rick Davidson
> Buckeye Internet Services
> www.buckeyeweb.com
> 440-953-1900
> -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Shubert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Request
>
>
> > Rick,
> >
> > I too am planning to advance Declude administration to my
> users via a
> > web application. Although I saw no reason why I couldn't
> > programmaticaly change the global.cfg and other files. Could I ask
> > your reasoning? Also, to what level of modification do you
> anticipate.
> > The numerous options that declude allows for will make 100% remote
> > editing quite a challange. Thanks for your input.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Rick Davidson wrote:
> > >
> > > Howdy Scott,
> > > Was wondering if you would consider creating a separate whitelist
> > > file
> for
> > > management purposes. Currently I have one customer with 4 Imail
> > > servers peered as a single domain across the country (US :-) I
> > > maintain master
> black
> > > lists and word filters on my workstation and use a batch
> file to FTP
> them to
> > > each server. Also, we are developing some web based
> management tools
> > > for Declude and would rather not have to programmaticly access the
> global.cfg
> > > file.
> > >
> > > Figured I would ask :-)
> > >
> > > Have a great day!
> > > Rick Davidson
> > > Buckeye Internet Services
> > > www.buckeyeweb.com
> > > 440-953-1900
> > > -
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