Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend

[Bonno Bloksma]

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Hi,   I just missed "the goold ol' days" with the cards. We still had them but us new guys were allowed to use a screen editor. Even the line terminals were for the other guys. Funny thing was... the computer we were to use was about two by two by two (yards) and could handle about twelfe to fifteen users editing plain tekst files. It was so busy handling the the editing that the programs we were creating were then submitted to the "real" computer, which was either a Dec 1060 or 2060. Later the 1060 was upgraded to 2060 as well. The job which then ran as a job on the big Dec, and they were big in a physical way, ran as a batchjob from a card reader, the input would show "x cards read". :-)   Nice thing about that setup..... the jobs we were submitting ran at the operator level so...... guess what else we could do. :-))))))))) I never found out how to create an account but I was able to copy my files ot another existing account and then break in on that account, which was childs play. Breaking in on an account was simply entering the login name and then hitting Ctrl-Y (I thing it was Ctrl-Y) rappidly to send a break to the login program. In would then somtimes forget to ask for the password. If it didn't work the first time just try it again, at least one in ten times would be successfull. :-))))) Groetjes,   Bonno Bloksma ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Beckstrom To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I started off on an IBM 370/168 in 1980.  The characters on the console were rendered in green print and looked like they had been hand drawn on the screen.  The computer had a CPU meter on it.  The needle would go to 100% utilization and stay there most of the night.  I remember just a few days after starting for the Company someone called me up and asked me to “turn on their focus.”  I thought to myself, “what an idiot.  Its impossible for me to turn on their focus that must be a knob on their screen”   It was only later I found out Focus was some kind of software application that they wanted me to run.  LOL!   We used to have to remove the disk platters from the disk drives and swap them with other platters.  I think these were 3350 drives????   I don’t recall for sure that was 26 years ago.  We had fourteen 3420 tape drives that I had to kept fed and they were hungry buggers!  I’d walk around with about 10 reels of tape on my arm and I’d keep those drives loaded with tapes and have to take the old reels off and hang them back on the racks.  I believer the racks held something in the neighborhood of 18,000 reels of tape.   The first PC we had was one my dad had bought.  It booted off of a tape drive.  There was no such thing as a hard drive at that time!!!!  He was gone to work one day and I typed into the computer, “what is your name?”  The PC responded with some cryptic error message that made no sense to me.  I asked a few more questions and finally concluded that the PC was just plain stupid and that it didn’t know a thing!  It was about 2 years later that I went to school for programming.           From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. Spivack Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend   Ah, you mean using a magic marker to write a visual stripe on the edge of the cards, right?   Bah, we just NEVER dropped our card decks.  Afterall, using columns 72 to 80 for sequence numbers was always for wimps, right?   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:20 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend   Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Andy.   For me it was a new 360(?) in college in 1968. One of the seniors showed me how to run a thin diagonal stripe down the side of the card deck to aid in sorting, should it ever be necessary...   ABEND was absolutely in the vocabulary at that time. Both as "evening" from my German classes and ABnormalENDing, courtesy of IBM.   Now I have REALLY dated myself.   -d     ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Schmidt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend   Ha - long before Gates started college, there was a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machines to get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionary brand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a "D"os.  Instead of a "G"UI you had a teletype.   And Windows were something you put in walls to look through.   Yet, programs were "abending" already.   I'm frequently amused about "new" concepts that are being introduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, "been there - done that, but more than 20 years ago".   Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko   ;)   John T eServices For You   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend   I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending.   Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing?   Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions