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How do you update Declude Junkmail without updating declude eva?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:53 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> 
> While we are on the subject of licensing ...
> 
> I have JunkMail Pro on which I maintain a current service 
> contract and keep the version as current as I feel 
> comfortable doing.  I also have Declude Virus that works 
> perfectly well in whatever version is installed.  I haven't 
> updated it in forever.
> 
> When I purchased my JunkMail service contract, I was informed 
> a few days later that I would also be required to purchase a 
> Declude Virus contract if I wanted to maintain my JunkMail 
> service contract.  Barry was nice enough to make an exception 
> this year but didn't sound like he was eager to continue this 
> practice.
> 
> Do I have to purchase service contracts on both products if I 
> only care about upgrades on one?  Will I be forced to 
> purchase 2 contracts when my current one expires, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> Evans Martin
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > 
> > Don,
> > 
> > Your license to run the software does not expire. What does 
> expire is 
> > your right to download new updates of the software.
> > 
> > David Franco-Rocha
> > Declude Technical / Engineering
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > 
> > 
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer.
> > >
> > > > An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired 
> license to 
> > > > run
> > the
> > > > software.
> > >
> > > I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my
> > "license
> > to
> > > run the software" expire?
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Franco-Rocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > >
> > >
> > > > An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired 
> license to 
> > > > run
> > the
> > > > software. It simply does not allow you to update the 
> software, but 
> > > > you
> > can
> > > > continue to run the version you have been running.
> > > >
> > > > David Franco-Rocha
> > > > Declude Technical / Engineering
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service
> > contract
> > > >> up
> > > >> to date.  I am not ambitious enough to work through 
> all the 2.x 
> > > >> and
> > 3.x
> > > >> issues.  A heart felt thank you goes out to those of 
> you who are.
> > > >>
> > > >> With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens 
> when I decide 
> > > >> not
> > to
> > > >> renew the service agreement?  Will all the Declude software I 
> > > >> have
> > stop
> > > >> working?  Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid
> > service
> > > >> agreement?  It used to be that the service agreement 
> allowed me 
> > > >> major version upgrades when they were available 
> without paying an
> > additional
> > > > fee.
> > > >> Am I now paying for a license to "use" the software?
> > > >>
> > > >> Don
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > > >> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Bottom line is we were told if the license server 
> was offline 
> > > >> > we
> > would
> > > > not
> > > >> > be impacted.  It is seeming now that that statement was not 
> > > >> > true, though
> > > > I
> > > >> > should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why 
> this had an
> > impact.
> > > >> > Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a
> > service
> > > >> > agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I would certainly like to know what will be done to the 
> > > >> > software
> > > > licensing
> > > >> > to make sure this problem does not happen again.  Otherwise, 
> > > >> > since
> > mail
> > > > is
> > > >> > considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to
> > address
> > > >> > problems as they arise.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Darin.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM
> > > >> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > True, very true. But like Andy or Darrell said, they should 
> > > >> > have
> > done
> > a
> > > >> > test
> > > >> > by pulling the plug on their license server during the week 
> > > >> > when
> > they
> > > > were
> > > >> > watching it to see what would happen.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > But of course, hind sight is always 20/20 and Monday morning 
> > > >> > quarterbacking is highly overrated. ;-)>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > John T
> > > >> > eServices For You
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >> >> [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Don 
> > > >> >> Brown
> > > >> >> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:44 PM
> > > >> >> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > > >> >> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Software and hardware breaks.  Nothing is 
> bulletproof.  Some 
> > > >> >> are
> > just
> > > >> >> better than others.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:50:20 AM, John T (Lists) 
> > > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> OUCH!
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> Gee, I thought this is the kind of thing that we were 
> > > >> >> JTL> told no
> > way
> > > >> > would happen.
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> John T
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> eServices For You
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> JTL>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >> JTL> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of
> > David
> > > >> > Franco-
> > > >> >> Rocha
> > > >> >> JTL>  Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:29 AM
> > > >> >> JTL>  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > > >> >> JTL>  Cc: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > >> >> JTL>  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> Due to the long holiday weekend, we have been 
> away from 
> > > >> >> JTL> the office for a few days. Unfortunately it 
> has come to 
> > > >> >> JTL> our
> > attention
> > > >> >> JTL> that there could be a problem with key 
> validation on the
> > server
> > > >> >> JTL> there. After some testing, we have determined 
> that there 
> > > >> >> JTL> is
> > in
> > > >> >> JTL> fact a hardware issue that we expect to have 
> resolved today.
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> We appreciate that you have taken the time to 
> bring this
> > matter
> > > >> >> JTL> to our attention and appreciate your patience while we
> > rectify
> > > >> >> JTL> the situation. We will once again post to this 
> list when 
> > > >> >> JTL> the
> > > >> >> issue
> > > >> > has been
> > > >> >> corrected.
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL> Declude Technical / Engineering
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >> JTL>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> ----
> > > >> >> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA     Internet Concepts, Inc.
> > > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]       
> http://www.inetconcepts.net
> > > >> >> (972) 788-2364                    Fax: (972) 788-5049
> > > >> >> ----
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