Matt, I agree with you. It would mean nothing to a major spammer to spend 1/4 cent per message to have it guaranteed delivered.
For 100K messages, that would be $250 which would actually improve the spammers' chances for more responses since the recipients would then trust the sender. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:29 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Extortion > > Considering that AOL and Yahoo both have issues with blocking legitimate > E-mail, and Yahoo is just about the most exploited service provider on > the planet, responsible for a great number of phishing and Nigerian > scams, I find it quite hypocritical for them to in the business of > charging companies for the right to spam their customers. This is > really what this is all about. > > The BondedSender program is much the same. They charge companies with > spam problems a fee for protection, but they market the service to users > like us as a way to validate the legitimacy of what they bond. If > anything, a bonded IP is more likely to spam than one that is not > bonded. Once when I reported the spam service Virtumundo to > BondedSender for spamming, their response was to keep them bonded only > for the IP address that they used to send to HotMail accounts. What do > you think that was all about? IronPort also of course owns SpamCop and > sells boxes that some spammers use for bulk-mailing. > > I get the impression that this is just Yahoo and AOL trying to profit > from two groups of bulk-mailers, 1) ones that feel it necessary to > protect their campaigns from being blacklisted by these services because > Yahoo and AOL are difficult or even impossible for them to deal with > when users repeatedly report legitimate E-mail for being spam, and 2) > spammers, yep, AOL and Yahoo now want to get in on the BondedSender > model and profit from spamming. > > Matt > > > > Dave Doherty wrote: > > > I'd like to charge senders a penny per email. Wouldn't you? That is > > the old post office model. > > > > I just don't think that goodmail has the right model. > > > > -d > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:33 PM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Extortion > > > > > >> New Service Would Charge E-Mail Senders > >> > http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?cat=51180&id=2006020521220 > 001389466 > >> > >> > >> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Two of the world's biggest e-mail account > >> providers, Yahoo Inc. and America Online, plan to introduce a > >> service that would charge senders a fee to route their e-mail > >> directly to a user's mailbox without first passing through junk > >> mail filters, representatives of both companies said Sunday. > >> > >> > >> --- > >> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > >> > >> --- > >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. > >> > >> > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
