John, Actually, your understanding of the history of Declude is what is lacking. I have had direct dialogue with the new owners of Declude and I was asked not to share information on this list. So before you start suggesting that I'm speaking out of turn you should know that you don't have all the facts. All I will say is promises were broken.
As for the whole privacy/hypocritical bit -- what people don't know doesn't hurt them. I can review spam with a product like spamreview and I can tell from the domain name, return address and subject what is spam in 95% of the cases. Its very rare that I would have to look at the actual content of the message. When a legit email is found, it can be moved into the spool and is sent to the recipient and the recipient doesn't ever know that email was trapped and held as spam. If we have to review email sent to a mail address, the content of the email is exposed in every case if we have the outlook preview option enabled. No, we will not review the spam using webmail. Moreover, to get the email then to the intended recipient would require a forward and then they would have issues about privacy. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:54 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Software for searching junkmail > > > Declude is an incomplete product without a solution to identifying false > > positives in the spam folders. > > > That leaves a requirement for something like spamreview as the only > > legitimate option available - but we have been unsuccessful in getting > > Declude to update it to work with smartermail. > > Dave, your understanding of the history of the Declude products in lacking. > > I do not have the time to go into the history for you at this time, but > suffice it to say the owners of Declude are doing their best to package up > the Declude products into a form that many have become accustomed to in > other software. However, as many of us long time Declude users know and > understand that the very features that make Declude the great software it is > are the very same features that are making it so difficult to package up > into a nice neat include all package that many are demanding. > > Since Declude did not create SpamReview, and further since the original > creator of SpamReview has decided not to further develop or support the > product, there is no requirement on any ones part to make SpamReview work > with Declude for SmarterMail. > > There are a lot of people that are making complaints and accusations against > Delude for various things at various times, including myself when warranted. > > Make sure you do so for only those things under their control. > > > Some folks route spam to an email address that the admin reviews, but that > > is a violation of privacy and not a direction we care to go. Moreover, > > there is no means to forward the legitimate email on the recipient without > > it appearing to have come from us. We also can't ask our users to > > periodically check a spam address and none of our users use webmail > either. > > As to your remarks about privacy, you are being hypocritical. On one hand > you are saying that viewing the message if sent to a review account is > violating privacy yet you are demanding support for SpamReview which lets > you view the exact same message that you would see in a review account. How > can viewing the e-mail in question in a review account violate privacy but > viewing the same e-mail in SpamReview not violate privacy? > > > Its not a good situation if you have legitimate business email not being > > received by customers. > > No it is not, and I do not have that problem using Imail and Declude and > SpamReview. > > John T > eServices For You > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
