I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the
company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product.

We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with
invURIBL and Commtouch.

We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to
remove it.

Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the
Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously.

So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server
than Sniffer.

We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to
probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and
only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the
various test sources.

It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the
spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between
introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions
into the field.

Glenn



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer.  We are not using Commtouch.
For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by
adding Commtouch?  Our management is very happy with the current set up,
esp. compared to what we used to have.  However, I do spend a few hours per
week tweaking settings to achieve that.

Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on
it's own won't get you want you want/need.  As I mentioned, we are not
running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and
another when I added Sniffer.

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not
run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none
and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day.

We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and
less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes.

Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Uwe Degenhardt
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM
> To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com)
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
> 
> Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution.
> It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel.
> But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run 
> Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all.
> I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch.
> I hope they all run with SM.
> Thanks everybody.
> Uwe
> 
> 
> > Same Here.
> 
> > Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to
> Declude...(unfortunately
> > on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day
> everyday)
> 
> > Sniffer from Armresearch
> > invURIBL from invariant systems
> > ZEROHOUR from Commtouch
> 
> > With that combo you cant go wrong.
> 
> > Kindest Regards
> > Craig Edmonds
> > 123 Marbella Internet
> > W: www.123marbella.net
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Darin
> > Cox
> > Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
> 
> > We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and
> 99.9% of
> > incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize
> before
> > upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer
> and
> > invURIBL.
> 
> > Darin.
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Uwe Degenhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
> 
> 
> > Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to 
> > share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last 
> > two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who 
> > is seeing this ?
> > I am in a good contact with David
> > of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
> > job, but sometimes I loose my faith
> > and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
> > It appeals to me, as it is like the old
> > principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to 
> > run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will 
> > get cleverer everyday.
> > What do you guys think ?
> > Are you frustrated as well ?
> 
> > Uwe
> 
> 
> 
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