Hi Todd,
Alligate has way better greylisting capabilities than SmarterMail. SmarterMails implementation is somewhat dangerous. You need to be able to accurately qualify which messages should be greylisted. Alligate is the only greylisting implementation that does this. I don't believe you would have this problem if you were running Interceptor or the Alligate/Declude combination, and I am sure other Alligate/Declude users would agree with me. If you are interested, I can work with you to give you an upgrade path to Declude Interceptor from your current license. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax <mailto:dbar...@declude.com> dbar...@declude.com From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:11 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Thanks Craig. From all indications our server is tightened down pretty good right now. We moved from Imail to SM at the start of April, and I implemented grey listing at the start of May. So we did have a fair amount of backscatter in between until I really understood what greylisting could do. Unfortunately, I can't talk the bosses into dropping another $800 or so to try and fix the problem. I know others have used ASSP with success, so I might look at that. SmarterMail's greylisting seems to be a lot better than what the rules in Declude offer. I might look at implementing ASSP in front of SM. I've heard a lot of people talk about the advantages of running something in front of your mail server. So it might be time. Todd From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:53 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Hi Todd, I think grey listing prevents backscatter coming INTO your mail server, it does not prevent you getting on blacklists. If you are on a blacklist then I think you need to figure out how your smtp server is configured because it would indicate an issue somewhere. Since using Alligate (www.alligate.com) as the first line of defence in front of declude, we have had zero black listings and all the backscatter has disappeared. The backscatter rules in declude really blow which is why I would highly recommend looking at Alligate as your smtp gateway. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.com <http://www.123marbella.com/> E : cr...@123marbella.com From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: 16 May 2009 13:54 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter I think Greylisting reduces backscatter. Greylisting stops the majority of the SPAM from ever reaching our mail server, so it never has a chance to get bounced back because of a non existent user, etc. Mike _____ Hi Everyone - We've been having a few issues with mail servers refusing our mail. Today I ran a test on DNSStuff and found that our IP is on BackScatter.org. They are referencing an event on 4/27, and supposedly we will be removed after 4 weeks if they haven't had any other issues. Of course we can pay to have it removed sooner. I'm not sure if being listed in their DB is the main culprit to the server refusals that I've seen? We switched over to SmarterMail in mid-April. Since 4/27, we have implemented grey listing. Is grey listing a good first line of defense? Is there anything else I should be doing to prevent back scatter? Thanks for your thoughts on this. Todd --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
