For what it's worth, I never move messages from HOLD to SPOOL. When I do
move false positives out, I fix the problem in my configuration, so that
the same circumstance doesn't happen again, and then I move the files
from the HOLD to the PROC folder.
 
By re-scanning them, they get virus scanned and I am sure that I have
saved time by getting spam scanned as well; it would cost me more time
to repeat the procedure next time than it takes me to override my text
filters and re-queue the messages now.
 
Very few messages get pulled out of the HOLD folder, so not scanning
those messages for viruses saves me a lot of processing power.
 
 
Andrew.
 

________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:00 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG



Correct if you send held email directly to the spool there is a
potential for a virus to bypass if running AVAFTERJM this is why it is
important to correct the issue that caused the false positive then
reprocess via Declude. OR alternately ensure you virus scan your HOLD
folders.

 

If you are asking to only to apply AVAFTERJM only to Deleted emails this
would reduce it's effectiveness as not every Declude customer uses
Delete. 


David

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bonno Bloksma
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:30 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

 

Hi David,

 

Could you explain this:

We have chosen not to do this otherwise your users will end up with
viruses in their junkmail folders

 

By NOT scanning held junkmail the virus WILL end up in a users mailbox
if I have to reque the mail because it was a FP. Of course you don't
have to scan deleted mail.

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer

 

tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 

begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   / www.tio.nl
<http://www.tio.nl/>  

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: David Barker <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

        To: declude.virus@declude.com 

        Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:28 PM

        Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

         

        Dear Bonno,

         

        It is not that we can't do this. We have chosen not to do this
otherwise your users will end up with viruses in their junkmail folders.


         

        AVAFTERJM will skip messages on DELETE and HOLD actions only.

         

        David

         

        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bonno Bloksma
        Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:20 AM
        To: declude.virus@declude.com
        Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

         

        Hi,

         

        (Open mail request)

        Dear Declude people.

         

        I have asked this before and with the current spam levels kan we
PLEASE have this feature now ASAP? We all want to use AVAFTERJM but
could you PLEASE make it scan all mail which is not deleted?

        If that is a to big step at first becasue of all the possible
copy, routeto, etc statements can we at least have it for the HOLD
action asap?

         

        Met vriendelijke groet,
        Bonno Bloksma
        hoofd systeembeheer

         

        tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 

        begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
        t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   / www.tio.nl
<http://www.tio.nl>  

                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: Kevin Bilbee
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

                To: declude.virus@declude.com 

                Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:25 PM

                Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

                 

                Be careful with this setting. If a message gets held as
spam it will not be
                virus scanned. Make sure you scan any message moved back
into the delivery
                queue for viruses before placing it in the delivery
queue folder.



                Kevin Bilbee

                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
                > Darin Cox
                > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:10 AM
                > To: declude.virus@declude.com
                > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG
                > 
                > AVAFTERJM has been around a long time.  I don't
remember what version,
                > but
                > it was a 1.x version.
                > 
                > Are you familiar with the setting?  It tells Declude
to run Anti-Virus
                > after
                > Junkmail.  It then only runs AV after checking to see
if the message is
                > spam.  With the spam load these days, I would expect
that to be the
                > desired
                > config, resulting in AV scanning on only about 10% of
incoming mail
                > instead
                > of 100%.  However, it is not the default setting,
which runs AV first,
                > then
                > Junkmail.
                > 
                > That could easily account for yours and Kathy's
70-100% CPU.
                > 
                > Darin.
                > 
                > 
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "Brian Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                > To: <declude.virus@declude.com>
                > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:55 AM
                > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG
                > 
                > 
                > No, I am still using antique version declude and
                > imail.
                > 
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                > To: <declude.virus@declude.com>
                > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:07 PM
                > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG
                > 
                > 
                > > Interesting that you are also seeing the 70-100% CPU
with F-Prot 6,
                > where
                > > we
                > > are not.
                > >
                > > Are you running AVAFTERJM?
                > >
                > > Darin.
                > >
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: "Brian Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                > > To: <declude.virus@declude.com>
                > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:23 AM
                > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV
SOSDG
                > >
                > >
                > > I just terminate my F-Prot 6, and installed ClamAV
SOSDG
                > >
                > > Before that, my CPU usage is always run to skyhigh,
                > > at around 70%-100%,   now using ClamAV, reduce
                > > to 5%-20%, still catching all the testing virus.
                > >
                > > F-prot 6 do not provide option like noboot, nomem,
                > > I guess these become the default setting, and cause
                > > very high CPU and harddisk usage.
                > >
                > > Alex instruction dated at 6 June 2008 for ClamAV
installation
                > > is very helpful, thanks!
                > > The main tricks in clamav are:
                > > 1: need to install the contributors' tools, then get
                > > two dedicated tools for declude, can run the
                > > clamdscan as service.
                > >
                > > 2: need to remove --mbox, if this is there, it will
                > > not function.
                > >
                > > Brian
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: "Brian Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                > > To: <declude.virus@declude.com>
                > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:02 AM
                > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6
                > >
                > >
                > >>I think VIRUSCODE 1 need to be added too?
                > >>
http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/310.html
                > >>
                > >> Anyway, using F-Prot 6 seems very slow compare with
previous F-Prot
                > 3,
                > >> I do not know the exact reason. I have try to
reduce scanlevel,
                > heulevel,
                > >> archive to 0 or 1, still very slow, I guess it is
now scanning
                > memory by
                > >> default?
                > >>
                > >> Another question is , for REPORT=report.txt
                > >> do we need < >?  REPORT=<report.txt>
                > >>
                > >> from instruction here, looks like need < >
                > >>
http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/445.html
                > >>
                > >> but most users online post seems < > is not
necessary.
                > >>
                > >>
                > >>
                > >> ----- Original Message -----
                > >> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                > >> To: <declude.virus@declude.com>
                > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:34 AM
                > >> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6
                > >>
                > >>
                > >>> Assuming the default location for program
installation, here you
                > go.
                > >>>
                > >>> SCANFILE C:\PROGRA~1\FRISKS~1\F-PROT~1\fpscan.exe
/VERBOSE=0
                > /ARCHIVE=5
                > >>> /scanlevel=4 /heurlevel=3 /REPORT=report.txt
                > >>>
                > >>> /VERBOSE=0 corresponds to the old /SILENT switch
                > >>> /TYPE is assumed now
                > >>> /ARCHIVE has changed to /ARCHIVE=5
                > >>> /NOMEM, /NOBOOT, /DUMB, /AI, and /SERVER are
defunct
                > >>> /SCANLEVEL and /HEURLEVEL are new switches.  The
values above are
                > >>> recommended
                > >>>
                > >>> See the FProt 6 manual for more info on conversion
of switches, and
                > >>> desired
                > >>> settings
                > >>>
                > >>> Also, while the old
                > >>>
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 3
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 6
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 8
                > >>>
                > >>> is most likely sufficient, we added
                > >>>
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 3
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 5
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 6
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 7
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 8
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 9
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 10
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 11
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 13
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 14
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 15
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 17
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 18
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 19
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 21
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 22
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 23
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 25
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 26
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 27
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 29
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 30
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 31
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 33
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 34
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 35
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 37
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 38
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 39
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 41
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 42
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 43
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 45
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 46
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 47
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 49
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 50
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 51
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 53
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 54
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 55
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 57
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 58
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 59
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 61
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 62
                > >>> VIRUSCODE 63
                > >>>
                > >>> for completeness.
                > >>>
                > >>> Hope this helps,
                > >>>
                > >>> Darin.
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>> ----- Original Message -----
                > >>> From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                > >>> To: <declude.virus@declude.com>
                > >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:46 AM
                > >>> Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>> Can anyone provide a SCANFILE line that they know
works with F-PROT
                > 6 ?
                > >>>
                > >>> Thanks
                > >>> David B
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>
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