Hi all, I seem to have missed this mail ...
Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2011, 02:25 +0200 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: > Hi Jay, all, > > planas schrieb: > > Bernard > > > > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:13 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > >> [...] > >> > >> But we should avoid to discuss details like graphical approach, menu > >> positioning and so on: The first thing to do is defining the functionality > >> - form > >> will follow function when we really know how it should work... > >> > >> [...] > >> > > > > I think we should try to understand what MS was trying to do with the > > ribbon and then examine how well it works and where it fails. More not > > to inadvertently make the same mistake > > You are right, but I think the OpenOffice.org Renaissance team already > did this job (at least I think so, knowing some of the people having > worked in this area). Short: Yes. Long answer: Would be a really long answer ... > Could you or someone else check out what they discussed and defined in > their wiki [1]? (you might search their mailing list [2] too, but there > are more than 1000 mails in the archive) > > If there is not enough information available, you might try to get more > insight from Microsoft directly, if this is publicly available. So I propose to start watching the MX08 presentation by Jensen Harris who led the Ribbon UI team - pretty amusing, although the underlying issues are present (also within LibO). Here is part 1 of 10 - please watch all parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9kD693ie4 > But this will probably take some time and effort - I don't know if this > time shouldn't be spent on tasks directly related to LibreOffice... If we talk about improvements - everything is related to to LibreOffice. And if we can learn from the past, then this is even better. I can offer - and I'm sure the other OOo UX members will do this as well - to summarize the corresponding discussions that happened. That shouldn't be too difficult (but time consuming), since you know that I was a Renaissance core team member. But again - many ideas have been raised in the past, and many of those ideas did not made it into the product for a variety of reasons. So please lets work on some details first and - along the way - remove the "reasons" to finally work on a better interaction concept. Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
