2009/11/3 Owen Taylor <otay...@redhat.com> > On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 16:28 -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: > > Owen: > > > > It sounds like GNOME Shell will likely not integrate with GNOME 2.30. > > > > How are users expected to turn on/enable GNOME Shell? At the Boston > > Summit, I remember people suggesting that there should be a checkbox in > > the Preferences->Appearance capplet that the user can check it to start > > using GNOME Shell. Is this the plan? > > > > Whatever such interfaces are needed in the base desktop to provide end > > users with the ability to "switch" to GNOME Shell, I hope these > > interfaces make it into GNOME 2.30. Ideally, users should just need to > > install the new GNOME Shell, mutter, etc. modules and have their desktop > > "just work". Users should be able to enable GNOME Shell without needing > > to hack around with gconf-editor, .desktop files, etc. > > > > I think it will cause problems for adoption and testing if users need to > > reinstall patched versions of gnome-control-center (or whatever) in > > order to turn on GNOME Shell after installing the GNOME Shell packages. > > Hey Brian - > > Having a standard way to easily switch back and forth is a good idea, > thanks for bringing up the topic. For Fedora we've extended our "Desktop > Effects" capplet to allow changing to GNOME Shell as well as Compiz. > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2009-August/msg00119.html > > has a screenshot. It handles like checking for hardware 3D, letting the > user confirm that they still have a working session, and adjusting the > GConf settings for gnome-session to enable the appropriate window > manager and/or panel. > > The basic operation of this program is not at all Fedora specific but > there are a couple of things that are tied to the way we do things: > > - We use the 'compiz-gtk' script to launch Compiz > - We configure Compiz to use the GConf backend and allow setting > a couple of settings that way. > > We could try to make it more flexible to handle the way Compiz works on > other distributions, or even now if /usr/bin/compiz-gtk isn't there (and > it won't be there on any other distribution) then the Compiz option will > simply not be there, but maybe we should strip out the Compiz option > entirely and make it a "GNOME 3 Preview" tool, which would basically > have some explanatory text, a link to read more about GNOME 3, and the > ability to enable or disable. > > This could just be shipped right in the gnome-shell module, so it would > be installed if gnome-shell was and not otherwise. > > I don't think integrating this into the Appearance capplet really makes > sense - already we have very different things there: > > - Themes (advanced customization) > - The size of your font (see what you are doing) > - Change wallpaper (show off a picture of your kid) > > Adding another option in there that complete changes the entire way your > desktop works adds a whole extra and much more radical level to this. > > I'd be interested in hearing the opinions of different people who are > packaging up gnome-shell on what would be useful for them. The hard part > of the code is written, it's just a question of the details of the UI > and where we put it. > > > In terms of zeitgeist, there have not been any tarball releases as far > > as I can tell. If we are seriously considering adding zeitgeist into > > GNOME, I would think we should be starting to do more formal releases of > > the code. I would think the sooner the better. > > There were a couple of releases this summer: > > http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2009/here-is-zeitgeist-0-2-1/ > > which Siegfried stepped up to do so there would be a stable base for > GNOME Shell integration while the code was being rewritten in the 0.3 > branch. (Apparently another rewrite is planned for the Zeitgeist > hackfest.)
Correction the 0.3 is the rewrite planned to be done during the hackfest (we r not rewriting all just around 50%). We will release it as a 0.9 though since it will be our last iteration before we actually meet all the services we intended. So a 1.0 is sooner than u think > - Owen > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > >
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