Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi Allan! > > >> Yes. *I* was annoyed by the recent Deja Dup discussion, and felt that > >> the developer got short-changed at the end of the day. I was very > >> annoyed at the "systemd as external dependency" discussion, and the > >> message that some people following along the "GNOME OS" meme sent to > >> developers on other platforms. > > > > There seems to be some confusion here. Frankly, I have no idea what the > > design team has to do with either the Deja Dup or systemd discussions. I > > only ever received positive comments about having GNOME Backup from our > > designers. As for GNOME OS, though members of our designers are involved > > in some related work (all in the open: see [1]), I wouldn't say that the > > team is a driving force behind that initiative (though I'm pretty sure > > they all think it's a good idea). > > > > It feels like our design team is being blamed for every controversial > > decision or discussion here. It might come as a shock to some, but we're > > generally just busy designing UI. :) > > Actually yes, it would be a bit unfair to blame the design-team (or only > the design-team) here. But at least from what I remember from the > discussion about Deja-Dup it was not a pleasant experience for somebody > wanting to integrate with GNOME. The points I remember: > > * GNOME designers decide how that feature should look - not you as a > maintainer
We'd want to work with the maintainer to develop the design. That's the way it usually happens. > * You need to give up your brand "Deja Dup" if you want to be part of GNOME > * Deja-Dup isn't allowed to exist in parallel as a application > (+ a lot of technical stuff about control-center and external capplets) I only ever raised that as a potential issue (I thought I'd been quite explicit about that). This has nothing to do with design. They were issues that I raised independently, and there was never any discussion about them within the design team. I actually felt that I was operating within a marketing role, not design. So you're doing it again - picking up on something and assuming it is coming from the design team when it's not. > I am pretty sure that things were not entirely meant that way but if you > read the discussion on d-d-l the impression stays pretty much. If that's the impression you got then I apologise - it was never the intent. > I guess Dave used the systemd discussion as a example for a possible bad > attitude in GNOME but it is clearly unrelated from design things. Right. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list