On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-01-26 at 20:56 +0000, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:47 AM Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Attracting and retaining contributors has to be the most important > > > consideration. It's worth noting that IRC cuts in a few different > > > directions here: on the one hand, IRC means there's no barrier > > > between us and all the existing Free Software contributors/projects > > > who are also using IRC. On the other hand, for contributors who are > > > used to modern tools, IRC probably feels like a huge step backwards > > > - it isn't user friendly, isn't attractive, and it doesn't work > > > well if you're not in one of the time zones that are popular with > > > our community. > > > > > > In some ways, GNOME has the worst of both worlds - we're using poor > > > tech which has the advantage of adoption, and then we go and use a > > > relatively isolated server, so we miss out on the additional > > > traffic we might get on Freenode. > > > > > > > Let me add my two cents here. I've been wanting to do something like > > this for some time and as Allan has alluded to, there has been > > discussions amongst engagement team people around this. > > > > My two cents, and bear with me on my slight rant - I really hate the > > idea of depending on a web app like riot. It's like admitting that > > we've lost the whole application space and that we're going browser. > > I know that is not what is intended, but that will be the perception. > > > > > > I'd like to do this, but I'd like to start putting resources into > > creating a viable chat client that works and is designed as a > > competition to a web app. Maybe that means some kind of contest or > > something. I'm not really worried about actually writing one after > > all matrix is an open standard, but the design one that shows the > > advantage of running something native should be a challenge that we > > need to meet head on. > > It would be really awesome to have a GNOME Chat app based on Matrix. > Instead of implementing support for multiple protocols in the app, like > we did with Empathy, it would focus on doing one thing well -- Matrix, > both text and video chat (OK, two things) -- and then the quality of > the support for other protocols would depend on the quality of Matrix > bridges and would not be something the app has to worry about. Trying > to support 20 different protocols really took its toll on the Empathy > user experience. Requires manpower. Maybe someone will see this mail > and become interested. Maybe not. > > I would support that as well. In any case, if a developer wants to do it that would be awesome. It seems that if we have 'wants/needs' we should advertise that we are looking for people to do that? Especially if we can get resources from both GNOME and Matrix communities to make this happen. sri > Michael >
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