Ferdinand Soethe schrieb: > At ApacheCon Johannes, after listening to the presentation on Cocoon > portlets, raised the question if views were not re-inventing the wheel > with Cocoon portlets (I hope I remember the name right) already > offering a similar functionality.
I ran a Cocoon-Portal instance on my computer and an independent Forrest one. Then I changed the config files until I got "http://localhost:forrest/body-index.html"; into a coplet window. Finally I had some success. This was the weekend right after the ApacheCon. Had no time to fiddle around more, I'm back to work (BTW: a Cocoon project). Sorry for the delay, I wanted to learn more before posting ... I noted some things, though. * As Ross said, the layout seems to be completely table-based and Forrest already has left this behind. I did not try to change the styling, though. * For Forrest content to go into the portal I had to strip the <html> and <body> tags. The portal integrates content as-is into the final page an did not like multiple <html>s inside too much (although it didn't blew up). * I created a new sub-sitemap only for forrest, which is pretty easy in the portal framework (once you know where and what to change; it resides below the coplet folder, like 'docs'). * Forrest does not output xhtml as all the abc2xhtml.xsl stylesheets are saying. body-*.html is not even valid XML (no single root tag), let alone html. * The portal uses a configuration hierarchy: 1. define coplets 2. define instances (may use coplets multiple times) 3. define the layout * Changes in these files (at least no. 2) sometimes required a restart of Cocoon/Portal to take effect which is rather annoying (maybe it's time to install tomcat ;-) * Thorsten uses some simple xdoc-files for some of the content and I'm quite sure it would be no big deal to pass them through Forrest before output. I'm lacking behind on Forrest:views (still), so I cannot compare the two. I'm willing to have a closer look, best with support by Carsten who seems to read the thread (e.g. the frequent restarts) -- as time allows. Cheers Johannes Ferdinand Soethe schrieb: > At ApacheCon Johannes, after listening to the presentation on Cocoon > portlets, raised the question if views were not re-inventing the wheel > with Cocoon portlets (I hope I remember the name right) already > offering a similar functionality. > > Ross said that he wanted to take a look at the latest version in > Cocoon and see if and how far we are actually duplicating > functionality. > > Ross, are you still going to comment on this? Can anybody else please > comment? Are we in fact reinventing the wheel here? > > With all the work going into implementing views, testing and > documenting them right now I'd like to see such a discussion happen > rather soon. > > -- > Ferdinand Soethe > > -- User Interface Design GmbH * Teinacher Str. 38 * D-71634 Ludwigsburg Fon +49 (0)7141 377 000 * Fax +49 (0)7141 377 00-99 Geschäftsstelle: User Interface Design GmbH * Lehrer-Götz-Weg 11 * D-81825 München www.uidesign.de Buch "User Interface Tuning" von Joachim Machate & Michael Burmester www.user-interface-tuning.de
