hmm, we (Guillaume mainly) did a huge work to enable to decorate the pom and aim at using xml as it is and this is a perfect match use case, if we fail to make it then it means we likely missed something
anyway since there will be no consensus and if the external namespace support is not desired then I think the topic can be closed until it pops again in a few years Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau <https://x.com/rmannibucau> | .NET Blog <https://dotnetbirdie.github.io/> | Blog <https://rmannibucau.github.io/> | Old Blog <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book <https://www.packtpub.com/en-us/product/java-ee-8-high-performance-9781788473064> Javaccino founder (Java/.NET service - contact via linkedin) Le jeu. 28 août 2025 à 10:18, Andy Law <[email protected]> a écrit : > I vote -1 to that suggestion. There’s no point in building something that > is off by default because you’ll never get groups 3 and 4. > > Either do it and make it on by default with a way to switch it off, or > don’t do it at all. > > Later, > > Andy > > *From: *Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thursday, 28 August 2025 at 08:02 > *To: *Maven Developers List <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: support and funding metdata in poms and plugin > > Hi all, > > thinking out loud but I do not think there will be a concensus, that said > maybe we can all agree to not have it in consumer pom so it can be a custom > namespace in build pom - which is still published and consummable by a > funding plugin. > Can make everyone happy? > > Romain Manni-Bucau > @rmannibucau < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Frmannibucau&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387357152%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vzRyFaF%2FllRbzqQV%2BLq2GcQKZELM97WzHbI1HQ0y4Iw%3D&reserved=0 > <https://x.com/rmannibucau>> | .NET Blog > < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdotnetbirdie.github.io%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387390582%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=eYK7BU2VMSX%2B%2FikTRmu0Ya5%2BWI1Ie9WZA7EfpcJ6m7I%3D&reserved=0 > <https://dotnetbirdie.github.io/>> | Blog < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frmannibucau.github.io%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387414729%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KfHZnk7DcdzRV2VExlBX8%2FFVNF9L1LbxnzeQvRzhf0Q%3D&reserved=0 > <https://rmannibucau.github.io/>> | Old > Blog < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frmannibucau.wordpress.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387430534%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cObPR0wvRG2rHDI0mykzUCHxfhIivhQ33dU0FkkaaHM%3D&reserved=0 > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>> | Github > < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Frmannibucau&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387444675%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JDlWYCBk5pCJtuyc%2FWVQlk510plxYBoCxvZ%2FqD%2F2piA%3D&reserved=0 > <https://github.com/rmannibucau>> | LinkedIn > < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Frmannibucau&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387459352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gbs7ZCONil9Tj9ZPB6GguoU9F7%2B1psf1DFZES3rG%2Bg%3D&reserved=0 > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>> | Book > < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.packtpub.com%2Fen-us%2Fproduct%2Fjava-ee-8-high-performance-9781788473064&data=05%7C02%7C%7C5e5e217d45b341e9c65008dde600d31b%7C2e9f06b016694589878910a06934dc61%7C0%7C0%7C638919613387474926%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P73TgcNwFM3qfEQgCoYzhsPi%2BMKAgJvOisUERy%2BsFlc%3D&reserved=0 > <https://www.packtpub.com/en-us/product/java-ee-8-high-performance-9781788473064> > > > Javaccino founder (Java/.NET service - contact via linkedin) > > > Le jeu. 28 août 2025 à 08:57, Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> > a > écrit : > > > A big +1 from my side: > > > > While there are many projects out there that have no issues with funding > > and have a big community, there are some where only a handful (or less) > are > > doing all the work. > > I would love to see something like a little funding report at the end of > > the build. > > > > Mainly my work is consumed by users totally new to open-source. I think > > most of them belong to the third and fourth type „never thought“ and > > "didn’t know how“. > > So, this would be great help for me. > > > > But taking my releases of PLC4X as an example … depending on which PLC4X > > release you would refer to, you’d get 6 different places to go to … so > this > > might frustrate people (If they keep on using ancient versions) > > > > Chris > > > > > > Von: Andy Law <[email protected]> > > Datum: Donnerstag, 28. August 2025 um 08:43 > > An: Maven Developers List <[email protected]> > > Betreff: Re: support and funding metdata in poms and plugin > > > > ...And the third type - those who never thought about it. > > ...And the ones who did, but didn’t know where to start to ask > > > > (But apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us…) > > > > And if you don’t want to see it, then set the environment variable or > > property to turn it off and carry on. This doesn’t sound like a Wikipedia > > “Before we show you the thing that you were looking for” style > interaction. > > > > Have you seen the npm implementation? > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > > > > From: Delany <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, 28 August 2025 at 06:44 > > To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: support and funding metdata in poms and plugin > > > > There are two types of people: those who are looking for a program to > > sponsor and those who are not. > > If I was the former, the last place on the planet I'd look for a worthy > > recipient is at the bottom of my latest build output. > > This isn't Wikipedia with its > > philanthropic, save-the-world-through-education vibe - these are esoteric > > software development side-projects. > > I don't want promotional content showing up in my sacred build output. > > Its just not the place for pathos. > > > > My 2 cents > > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 03:37, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > I wouldn’t really see this as spamming. It will be only two extra > > > lines at the end of a Maven build, with an easy opt-out (env var or > > > sys prop) for anyone who prefers not to see it. > > > It seems essential to keep it independent of vendors (GitHub, > > > Sonatype, etc.). A few lines (link to url which could be simply GH > > > funding url) in the POM keep it simple and entirely under the > > > project’s control, avoiding the hassle of new files, signatures, or > > > repository manager checks. > > > It feels like a lightweight way to surface funding or support options > > > for open source projects. > > > Since open source often relies on unpaid time and effort, having an > > > easy mechanism to point to support opportunities could be a small but > > > helpful step. > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 at 02:02, Bernd Eckenfels <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin Todorov wrote on 22. Aug 2025 13:14 (GMT +02:00): > > > > > > > > > I don't think this is spam. It's a way for developers to get an > extra > > > > > stream of income to work on the things they love. > > > > > > > > I would not put it into the POM, those are ethernal and immutable and > > we > > > try to mini ihr them. > > > > > > > > Maybe a separate sponsors.xml as a extra artifact is better - or we > get > > > an Organisation which already runs a Sponsoring program like GitHub to > > > define an official mapping from coordinatea to projects. Or maybe > > Sonatype > > > since they would be able to correlate? > > > > > > > > If you want to keep it in the POM a rather neutral attribute like a > > > @sponsor-search=true flag besides the project url would allow the > > discovery > > > (on that page). Then we would have to define that only the latest > Version > > > of each artifact is to be consulted. 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