> I think before we cut a beta we need to have diagnosed and fixed 18993 
> (assuming it is a bug).
Before a beta? I could see that for rc or GA definitely, but having a known 
(especially non-regressive) data loss bug in a beta seems like it's compatible 
with the guarantees we're providing for it: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle

> This release is recommended for test/QA clusters where short(order of 
> minutes) downtime during upgrades is not an issue


On Sat, Nov 4, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Ekaterina Dimitrova wrote:
> Totally agree with the others. Such an issue on its own should be a priority 
> in any release. Looking forward to the reproduction test mentioned on the 
> ticket.
> 
> Thanks to Alex for his work on harry!
> 
> On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 at 12:47, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Alex can confirm but I think it actually turns out to be a new bug in 5.0, 
>> but either way we should not cut a release with such a serious potential 
>> known issue.
>> 
>> > On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:18, J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Sounds like 18993 is not a regression in 5.0? But present in 4.1 as well? 
>> >  So I would say we should fix it with the highest priority and get a new 
>> > 4.1.x released. Blocking 5.0 beta voting is a secondary issue to me if we 
>> > have a “data not being returned” issue in an existing release?
>> > 
>> >> On Nov 4, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I think before we cut a beta we need to have diagnosed and fixed 18993 
>> >> (assuming it is a bug).
>> >> 
>> >>>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:04, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> With the publication of this release I would like to switch the
>> >>>> default 'latest' docs on the website from 4.1 to 5.0.  Are there any
>> >>>> objections to this ?
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I would also like to propose the next 5.0 release to be 5.0-beta1
>> >>> 
>> >>> With the aim of reaching GA for the Summit, I would like to suggest we
>> >>> work towards the best-case scenario of 5.0-beta1 in two weeks and
>> >>> 5.0-rc1 first week Dec.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I know this is a huge ask with lots of unknowns we can't actually
>> >>> commit to.  But I believe it is a worthy goal, and possible if nothing
>> >>> sideswipes us – but we'll need all the help we can get this month to
>> >>> make it happen.
>> >>

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