On 8 June 2017 at 17:19, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Simon Spero <sesunc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [A Note, not a vote :) ]
>>
>> 1. Clirr is generally considered obsolete, as it hadn't been worked on for
>> about ten years.   japicmp is a good replacement, especially for report
>> generation, and is used in other commons projects.
>>
>
> IIRC, we've started using japicm here and there. Each component can decide.
> But yes, Clirr looks pretty dead.
>
>
>> 2. Are the "changes" to the values in CharEncoding really necessary[1] (The
>> deprecation surely is). Technically this is a potentially breaking binary
>> incompatible change, as constant strings and primitives are inlined at
>> compile time. [2]
>> In this particular case, the results of load-time evaluation of the new
>> initialization expressions  are identical to the old constants, so it's
>> behaviourally compatible; however, since this is the case, and since  it's
>> all deprecated anyway, why not leave the old values in-place?
>>
>
> The changes are not "necessary" that for sure and we do get Clirr warnings:
>
> Value of field ISO_8859_1 is no longer a compile-time constant
> Value of field US_ASCII is no longer a compile-time constant
> Value of field UTF_16 is no longer a compile-time constant
> Value of field UTF_16BE is no longer a compile-time constant
> Value of field UTF_16LE is no longer a compile-time constant
> Value of field UTF_8 is no longer a compile-time constant
>
> It's source compatible. What is the issue at runtime that could hurt users?

As the OP wrote, constants are inlined by the compiler.
So unless all code is recompiled, if it referenced the constant it may
have a stale value.
That is not binary compatible.

>
>> 3. JDK9 adds some extra parameters to the Deprecated annotation (most
>> notably  forRemoval=true, which is used to indicate that the annotated item
>> is really really deprecated.)   It's not needed in this case, but is worth
>> thinking about  when jdk9 is eventually released (latest schedule change :
>> from 7/27/2017 to 9/21/2017).
>>
>
> I do not think we plan on making Java 9 a requirement for any current
> project.
>
> Gary
>
>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> [1]  https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/commit/7c19a1ff4c217
>> f03c0be62baf1169d689f566825#diff-820a48456e11e85bf6cf5356c1aed4baR48
>>
>> [2] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/jls-
>> 13.html#jls-13.4.9
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2017 4:48 AM, "Benedikt Ritter" <brit...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > we have fixed quite a few bugs and added some nice new features since
>> > Commons Lang 3.5 was released, so I would like to release Commons Lang
>> 3.6
>> > based on RC3.
>> > The following issues have been fixed since RC2:
>> >
>> > - Site build now works from source distribution
>> > - IBM JDK test failures have been fixed
>> > - Automatic-Module-Name MANIFEST entry has been added for Java 9
>> > compatibility
>> >
>> > Commons Lang 3.6 R3 is available for review here:
>> >  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/lang (svn revision
>> 19928)
>> >
>> > The tag is here:
>> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-lang.git;a=tag;h=
>> > e454e79463ffbbd9114db43019dd211debbcc105
>> >
>> > Commit ID the tag points at:
>> >  360198dfb6a2d68f1702f616dfacee34ae0541bb
>> >
>> > Maven Artifacts:
>> >  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
>> orgapachecommons-1250
>> >
>> > These are the Maven artifacts and their hashes:
>> >
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-javadoc.jar
>> > (SHA1: c8adadb6c0b56c73f2cc2b4c77a09bfe34ec3a66)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-sources.jar.asc
>> > (SHA1: 46347c179ca9246d146d653bdc7363bda6f17d44)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.pom.asc
>> > (SHA1: 1309d4f3dd41a01ff9dd1f3c1a6eee10dad1ef77)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.pom
>> > (SHA1: 0fb4499188c94c63b3cba44f12481e193708c4a8)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.jar.asc
>> > (SHA1: e67e7d44751f1e346c2fda496193cbe251cfe098)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-javadoc.jar.asc
>> > (SHA1: 6b19fa12d319ced69c0f8a27001569514711f9dc)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-sources.jar
>> > (SHA1: f89c1df082d6f67cb7c956715c56d7e7a0508d0a)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.jar
>> > (SHA1: e58ba08b01d37a023746f0987dcd910036a63021)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-tests.jar.asc
>> > (SHA1: af050e8c29a801a5d6783268c56230b814f56240)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-
>> > test-sources.jar.asc
>> > (SHA1: 71e4c11efb9e3b2eff402ba4648d21822fb8da4a)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-test-sources.jar
>> > (SHA1: 04a0fc8293d4ed64a54dcc9ba5f996776a4657ea)
>> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6-tests.jar
>> > (SHA1: 87993a16c14a251062e3fe860fa53b5ef5304a0f)
>> >
>> > I have tested this with JDK 7, JDK 8 and JDK 9 EA b172 using Maven 3.5.0.
>> >
>> > Details of changes since 3.5 are in the release notes:
>> >    https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/lang/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
>> >    http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_
>> > RC3/changes-report.html
>> >
>> > Site:
>> >      http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_RC3
>> >  (note some *relative* links are broken and the 3.6 directories are
>> >  not yet created - these will be OK once the site is deployed)
>> >
>> > Clirr Report (compared to 3.5):
>> >    http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_
>> > RC3/clirr-report.html
>> >
>> > RAT Report:
>> >        http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_
>> > RC3/rat-report.html
>> >
>> > KEYS:
>> >  https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
>> >
>> > Please review the release candidate and vote.
>> > This vote will close no sooner that 72 hours from now,
>> > i.e. sometime after 11:00 CEST (UTC+2) 11-June 2017
>> >
>> >  [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
>> >  [ ] +0 OK, but...
>> >  [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
>> >  [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Benedikt
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