Hi Gary,

The M name is something Maven uses a lot and (to me) suggests something
> users might be more willing to try than anything labeled alpha or beta.
> YMMV of course.


Now that you mention it, I do remember installing some Maven versions that
had the M in its version!

>From a compatibility POV, anything can happen until 1.0, so the only name
> that matters is 1.0. We have no guidelines except what the world does at
> large with alpha, beta, or milestone, plus I would not restrict outlrselves
> saying we can't do this or that because we are in beta and not alpha
> anymore. The basic goal IMO is to up the usage and make sure we have a nice
> API for 1.0.


I think users are already trying the -alpha release, and I think it'd be
better to use alpha3:

- Less surprise to users, as alpha1 -> alpha2 -> alpha3 is intuitive
- Not all users may be familiar with M1, M2 (although that could be just me)
- I searched milestone release maven, and found this SO as the very first
hit
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3687208/what-does-m1-mean-in-a-maven-repository

>A milestone means that the application got a huge improvement from the
todo list. A release candidate is a release that can be the final release
unless some major bugs are found.

I do not think we had a huge improvement, yet, as there are old issues from
the first 1.0 vote that were not fixed yet, and other bugs reported by
users of the alpha1/2 releases that would be nice to fix before it's ready
to be released.

I think what we have in Imaging right now matches more the alpha release
described in ASF's release policy page
https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-types,

> Releases that only represent a project milestone and are intended only
for bleeding-edge developers working outside the project are called "alpha".

as I think Imaging's API still needs some trimming and may change in
this/next releases, so more like a bleeding-edge, which should be clear to
users getting an alpha3 release.

>From my point of view we do not really need to increase the number of users
testing the releases, but work through the issues reported (mea culpa,
sorry), and fix the 1.x issues. Once that's done, I think we could have an
M1 release then, and promote it more to get more users before the 1.0 final
(if needed, or straight to 1.0).

Wouldn't you consider an alpha3 instead, to avoid any issues to users, and
an M1 when we are closer to 1.0 (quite sure an alpha4 or M2 will be
needed... maybe more...).

Bruno

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 16:24, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruno,
>
> The M name is something Maven uses a lot and (to me) suggests something
> users might be more willing to try than anything labeled alpha or beta.
> YMMV of course.
>
> From a compatibility POV, anything can happen until 1.0, so the only name
> that matters is 1.0. We have no guidelines except what the world does at
> large with alpha, beta, or milestone, plus I would not restrict outlrselves
> saying we can't do this or that because we are in beta and not alpha
> anymore. The basic goal IMO is to up the usage and make sure we have a nice
> API for 1.0.
>
> HTH,
> Gary
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024, 10:49 AM Bruno Kinoshita <brunodepau...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Will try the branch and vote later this week.
> >
> > From another thread, I think M1 will behave exatcly like an alpha release
> > would.
> >
> > I am more used to alpha/beta/then final release process.
> >
> > Could you clarify how the M1 will distinguish from an alpha or 1.0
> release?
> >
> > Tha ks for preparing the release!
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, 14:17 Gary Gregory, <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > We have fixed a few bugs and added some enhancements since Apache
> > > Commons Imaging 1.0-alpha3 was released, so I would like to release
> > > Apache Commons Imaging 1.0.0-M1.
> > >
> > > Apache Commons Imaging 1.0.0-M1 RC1 is available for review here:
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > > (svn revision 68122)
> > >
> > > The Git tag commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1 commit for this RC is
> > > 53565f604393f5f3e09b87be020567d201905a44 which you can browse here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-imaging.git;a=commit;h=53565f604393f5f3e09b87be020567d201905a44
> > > You may checkout this tag using:
> > >     git clone https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git
> > > --branch <
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git--branch>
> > > commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1 commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > >
> > > Maven artifacts are here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1707/org/apache/commons/commons-imaging/1.0.0-M1/
> > >
> > > These are the artifacts and their hashes:
> > >
> > > #Release SHA-512s
> > > #Mon Mar 25 12:37:27 UTC 2024
> > >
> > >
> >
> org.apache.commons_commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1.spdx.json=87c9326b12ddb92d53483141f825fad966c432405120f1296f70a6dba54f7ca87f80af26ce209bcca8bdd89b4e93ac464cd8546d19919858504d6a20d2f211cc
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-sources.jar=5e0d15188af8b7278766d8efe2d3fa08809f782f7db580dd8115bcd8dd66de0534599722050c03d0e8347980b398c68f2eea938021a30d8d44b751c5175fdfb8
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bom.json=12a3e4c949580680b8bed4be2a5836cf2ed4d0235516b94b8d566c574176429ba7297a253f990f7515040b2ed978389eecc762f5166f6827619bb5494da0f625
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-src.zip=f4bf0919f2708eda8ab24cf92637dbf5e7ff443741911add2c7375c1161d798244ff1ef7bea47bdfddb9b1e2b8f65b5a212679729c4e22f9aad8815a1ebe2f0b
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-test-sources.jar=96ea44d7b42c9dd01e3250d4854506fde6876ff76e8a55a2e76e5df9d0a24bb7302d4288c05e284c3d122ebc61fb0ddd34741b97f60fec86b9141019c10c449b
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bin.tar.gz=1f7618ef5dfc7a6841aafb79f901d0c2010fa066ffccb5a4ff4c3e3083c0214bb4e998878ef3ca44c27a8df4a4e39888b7606e8c1f6d522c3029ccf4a9ec626e
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bom.xml=027ef7700828133cf25d8f0ac01dffe2266c8a635cde7bbfaa421faf84af0f0adb4389e48b62b3955105fb99befd0a62e31b0ecdddfeb611b0662612eb9dc6fa
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-src.tar.gz=f0f1c814993883c2913d258d50eb83877ea65f961e2a8aec06de1877e394de34eafdeed0f39ee67bd710da5e4efc8e8adb1d52e87ecb100c74a1343fa1fe09bc
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-tests.jar=f07ddff5273d32299261e51673f0a1030075ff72293f22087cc732e227b762c83dbad2cd59ed47c7409528bb9fe1fd4833a13e45163a357244487b002700dc8b
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-javadoc.jar=91b5998ff11bcd76af6346ea37f8fbb14c6390b02b48e9e4ee7b4e6c31b8b7344227e7c2fea6894cd866a3330a0c30a57ff1007a61549e07642312e3d2f2ae6f
> > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bin.zip=bf431713086e2fc61a9eb52eed1fd9043ca6c36601c81c3f775c110795e0d9dbdca09a768785ce4137cc9b822f9a736a50c2b8758ec58a2caa14695f68538784
> > >
> > > I have tested this with 'mvn' and 'mvn -V -Prelease -Ptest-deploy -P
> > > jacoco -P japicmp clean package site deploy' using:
> > >
> > > openjdk version "17.0.10" 2024-01-16
> > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment Homebrew (build 17.0.10+0)
> > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Homebrew (build 17.0.10+0, mixed mode,
> sharing)
> > >
> > > Apache Maven 3.9.6 (bc0240f3c744dd6b6ec2920b3cd08dcc295161ae)
> > > Maven home: /usr/local/Cellar/maven/3.9.6/libexec
> > > Java version: 17.0.10, vendor: Homebrew, runtime:
> > > /usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@17/17.0.10/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home
> > > Default locale: en_US, platform encoding: UTF-8
> > > OS name: "mac os x", version: "14.3.1", arch: "x86_64", family: "mac"
> > >
> > > Darwin **** 23.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 23.3.0: Wed Dec 20 21:28:58
> > > PST 2023; root:xnu-10002.81.5~7/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
> > >
> > > Details of changes since 1.0-alpha3 are in the release notes:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/site/changes-report.html
> > >
> > > This release does not preserve binary compatibility with previous alpha
> > > releaes.
> > >
> > > Site:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/site/index.html
> > >     (note some *relative* links are broken and the 1.0.0-M1
> > > directories are not yet created - these will be OK once the site is
> > > deployed.)
> > >
> > > RAT Report:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/site/rat-report.html
> > >
> > > KEYS:
> > >   https://downloads.apache.org/commons/KEYS
> > >
> > > Please review the release candidate and vote.
> > > This vote will close no sooner than 72 hours from now.
> > >
> > >   [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> > >   [ ] +0 OK, but...
> > >   [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> > >   [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Gary Gregory,
> > > Release Manager (using key 86fdc7e2a11262cb)
> > >
> > > For following is intended as a helper and refresher for reviewers.
> > >
> > > Validating a release candidate
> > > ==============================
> > >
> > > These guidelines are NOT complete.
> > >
> > > Requirements: Git, Java, Maven.
> > >
> > > You can validate a release from a release candidate (RC) tag as
> follows.
> > >
> > > 1a) Clone and checkout the RC tag
> > >
> > > git clone https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git
> > > --branch <
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git--branch>
> > > commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1 commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > > cd commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > >
> > > 1b) Download and unpack the source archive from:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/source
> > >
> > > 2) Check Apache licenses
> > >
> > > This step is not required if the site includes a RAT report page which
> > > you then must check.
> > >
> > > mvn apache-rat:check
> > >
> > > 3) Check binary compatibility
> > >
> > > Older components still use Apache Clirr:
> > >
> > > This step is not required if the site includes a Clirr report page
> > > which you then must check.
> > >
> > > mvn clirr:check
> > >
> > > Newer components use JApiCmp with the japicmp Maven Profile:
> > >
> > > This step is not required if the site includes a JApiCmp report page
> > > which you then must check.
> > >
> > > mvn install -DskipTests -P japicmp japicmp:cmp
> > >
> > > 4) Build the package
> > >
> > > mvn -V clean package
> > >
> > > You can record the Maven and Java version produced by -V in your VOTE
> > > reply.
> > > To gather OS information from a command line:
> > > Windows: ver
> > > Linux: uname -a
> > >
> > > 5) Build the site for a single module project
> > >
> > > Note: Some plugins require the components to be installed instead of
> > > packaged.
> > >
> > > mvn site
> > > Check the site reports in:
> > > - Windows: target\site\index.html
> > > - Linux: target/site/index.html
> > >
> > > Note that the project reports are created for each module.
> > > Modules can be accessed using the 'Project Modules' link under
> > > the 'Project Information' menu (see <path-to-site>/modules.html).
> > >
> > > -the end-
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