Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > > Now all that waiting causes problems, e.g. Cyriaque's case > > had successful vote, but we cannot yet announce it to the > > dev list. > > I didn't follow Cyriaque's case closely so I'm not sure what problem > this creates, could you explain this please.
It takes such a long time before the procedure is finished and all PMC members need to keep quiet about it until the end. In this case two of us accidently talked about Cyriaque becoming a committer. We still have not announced to the dev list that he is a new committer/PMC member. I am on a constant drive to talk as little as possible on the private PMC mailing list. This gives the impression that we talk a lot in private, and we don't want that false impression. Thoughout that whole procedure, the new committer needs to send email to the PMC list about any queries. That should all happen in the open. > > It would be better if we could announce them to dev@ list > > at step 3 and just say that there are more procedural steps > > which will take some time. > > [...] > > > What if the board denied them being a PMC member? > > I cannot see why they would, but that procedural step > > still needs to happen. > > If this does not happen, why is this part of the procedure still in > place. As it is I'd not (0) be in favour of just jumping it because of > the complications involved if they choose to exercise their right to > deny them membership. I gather that it is an official requirement for a corporation (the ASF is a non-profit corporation) that the board needs to acknowledge the addition/removal of committee members. I use dthe wrong words above. I don't think that it is anything to do with denying a person to become a member, though i could be wrong. > How about starting a motion to do away with this step or else > simplify procedure (why does it need to wait for step 5 so that it > doesn't get delayed). As above, we cannot delete that board acknowledgement step. It needs to wait for step 5 because we need to know the committer username to tell the board and add to svn:committers/board/committe-info.txt -David
