quick quick quick you are Mr. !!! ;-)

As I said before, a quick fix would be to either add a link or a redirect to 
the cwiki (same thing we have for GBuild) and remove, for now, the xbean 
directory in /www/geronimo.apache.org
(temporary solution till we sort out confluence reorg and plugin issues)

If no one objects I would just add a link to the cwiki.
Can somebody stop the crontab, if we temporarily use the external link there is 
no point in continue having this process running.

Can you tell me how the XBean space is organized? An index.html (autoexported) seems to be missing, do you mind if I create one?


As for me helping out, well I'm volunteering to move into production Geronimo's 
website authored with Confluence. That's where we all want to be, right? 
Confluence? as well as help out integrating the other subproject spaces so we 
deliver a consistent message all across the site.

There is no point in migrating autoexported HTML to xdoc and then back to 
confluence. That's why I'm suggesting to have a link pointing to the cwiki 
autoexported space.

As for maintaining going forward, there isn't much I can do to consciously 
update any of the subprojects sites, I'm simply not *that* aware of the 
day-to-day or *need to communicate* news. It wouldn't make much more sense if I 
do the updates, would it!? ;-)  What did you have in mind?

Once we fix the plugin issues and go live with the autoexported Geronimo web 
site we could then consolidate into Geronimo's space (GMOxSITE) all the other 
subprojects web site spaces. Copy (or maybe just reference if at all possible) 
GBuild and XBean confluence spaces into GMOxSITE. How does that sound?

Any volunteers to tackle some of the issues with the autoexport plugin?
the sooner we fix these the sooner we'll have the *one-for-all* authoring tool 
!!!

Cheers!
Hernan

James Strachan wrote:
Hernan, thanks for volunteering to migrate the XBean site to whatever
technology you wish and maintaining it going forward :)


On 2/12/07, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Guillaume,
continuing our conversation, now on dev@, I'll reissue some of my previous comments (just my observations, hopefully it still will make sense ;-) )

The XBean folks are using Confluence to maintain their site but we (Geronimo) are not. We still use xdocs and ant script to build our site. The source for Geronimo's web site is on svn.

We are not using Confluence for Geronimo's web site due to some issues with the autoexport plugin. Until we address those issues, vote and mover over Confluence, IMO, the subprojects listed under Geronimo's web site URL ( geronimo.apache.org/XYZ_project ) should use the same build method we use and be part of Geronimo's web site svn repo.

So far we have three subprojects listed and they are integrated in three different ways:

1.- Development Tools : part of main web site src and build process (ideal) 2.- GBuild : link to cwiki (external link, no real integration but not disruptive either) 3.- XBean : bypass svn repo and copied directly into /www/geronimo.apache.org/xbean (IMO, *really really bad practice*)

The way it is explained in the link you are pointing out (http://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/) goes well if you don't have the other half of your website already in production and authored with a totally different method.

The fastest way to fix this would be to have an external link to XBean cwiki. Similar to what we have with GBuild. However this does not address the integration issue.

We add subprojects to an existing structure/process and these new subprojects, I think, should adapt to the current procedures in place.

What I do consider a *really bad practice* is a melange of methods for authoring the web site. I consider XBean part of the Geronimo site since it's URL is geronimo.apache.org/xbean

The xbean piece of the site does not match the template used for the Geronimo site, it is similar but not the same. I think we are projecting an inconsistent web site image.


Bottom line, I think we should be consistent in the way we present the web site and the way we maintain it.

Again, if I missed or totally forgot the discussion about this pls let me know, I would really appreciate if some one can point me to it.

Comments?

Cheers!
Hernan

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> The XBean web site has been moved from goopen.org to the
> ASF confluence.  I have set up a cron job to rsync the
> autoexported site to
>   http://geronimo.apache.org/xbean/
>
> as explained at http://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/
>
> The new site should be up in a few hours (time for the mirrors to
> be updated).
>



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