The update manager needs to remain the official means of
installation. The zip distributions are available and we'll continue
to make them available, but this should not be and will not be as a
documented installation method. The don't see your server link
automatically chooses a default mirror location, so the cause of your
slow downloads is most likely due to the mirror not being the ideal
server for your location. Thus you can always use the update manager
directly as the website suggests so that you can select a mirror of
your choosing. A zip distribution provides, no validation, no
dependency checking, no install location preference, and does not
automatically refresh the plugin cache when extracted, so a restart
will not load the plugins if previous versions of the plugin
existed. Thus it should remain only a alternate install mechanism
that only individuals familiar with eclipse should use.
-sachin
On May 11, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
I suspect your network connectivity is too good :-)
Here is an experiment I tried:
Connected from Home with a Mobile Internet Connectivity of 230Kbps
( :-( that's the best Home connectivity I can get in my place) and
tried downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in by clicking on "Don't
see your server listed" link. After about 25mins and 7.1MB of
download volume Plug-in installation failed with a Network
Connection Error. When I tried again (thank God, download restarted
from where it last failed) it took another 25mins for an additional
download volume of 7.8 MB with 3 restarts!
After this I tried downloading a zip of eclipse plug-in (http://
people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/g-eclipse-
plugin-2.0.0-v20070430.1413-deployable.zip ) using a download
accelerator. This time it took 50mins for 17MB of download volume
to complete and there were no download errors.
In addition being able to download a zip allows me to backup a copy
of the setup for later use, which wouldn't be trivial if I use
automatic download by IDE.
We probably can recommend users to install via Eclipse update site,
yet make available a zip of eclipse plug-in for direct download.
What do you say?
We probably can also work to reduce the size of Geronimo Eclipse
Plug-in.
- Shiva
On 5/10/07, Lin Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just one comment here... When I last tried to download the geronimo
eclipse plugin, it was not slow at all. I don't really see much
difference of using the eclipse update manager vs. go to the site to
download the zip file. I think the preferred way is to use the
eclipse
update site as it can install/update the feature and its dependencies
automatically on the fly.
Lin
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> A few observations I made as a User of Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in:
> 1) Downloading Geronimo Eclipse Plugin from within the IDE (by
clicking
> on the "Don't see your server listed?" or by creating a new
remote site
> in the update manager) is too slow.
>
> It would save a lot of time if I can simply download a zip of
Geronimo
> Eclipse Plug-in say from
> http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html (similar to the
way I
> can download zips of most Eclipse Plug-ins from eclipse.org
> <http://eclipse.org>).
>
