On Aug 22, 2007, at 11:52 AM, David Jencks wrote:

I would like to see all the assemblies except the framework assembly be constructed by adding plugins to the framework assembly. Just because there has been no progress on this goal in the last year...

I definitely agree with your vision here. My main reservation with taking on that line of thought was, like you said, the lack of progress on the framework += customizations approach since the zzzzj2ee-installer (sorry, bad joke). To be fair though I should acknowledge that we have been just a little distracted on that JEE5 thing. :-)

There are some issues like how OSGI, xbean, and spring can/should/ will affect our framework and plugin strategy, and that hurts me poor brain. Good thing we have lots of clever people contributing to this project. Now is a good time to start those discussions and set our sites on a new goal. This is one I think we can all rally around and contribute to in various ways.

I think we are pretty close to having enough pieces lined up so we can actually do this, so I'm very definitely against removing this assembly. We could remove all the others to
spur on this process :-)

That just might do the trick!

Best wishes,
Paul

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