I vote that wJRE builds get deleted from the servers and only withoutJRE is served. That way a lot of space will be saved and every user, as you say, can download Java, if they so require. You can add a link to download page of JRE in the installtion software, at the end of installation, checks if Java is installed on the system, and if it is not, it offers a link to download the latest package if user so desires, notifying her about the benefits of having Java with JRE installed!
This is not a community package anymore, it is a Java vehicle. Lp, m. 2010/1/13 Marcus Lange <marcus.la...@sun.com> > Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > another thing - JRE is not localized into Slovenian nor in many other >> languages, unlike OpenOffice.org (I guess Sun doesn't see economic reason >> to >> do so for smaller markets). Also, Java and JRE are not opensource >> community >> driven projects and community cannot help translate them. >> > > OK, but this cannot be influenced by us (or in a really minor way). > > > In this sense - are wJRE builds still considered l10n builds and community >> builds and truly opensource? I mean, then JRE should also be localized in >> that languages, which narrows the list of languages to a much lesser list >> than it would be with current l10n OOo builds. >> >> I do believe this is a serious question that should not be decided only by >> a >> single release status meeting but by higher authority body in the OOo >> community - it has symbolic consequences and steers OOo in a different >> directions. >> > > You can try to communicate this to the steering commitee channel. Maybe > they will discuss it then and make a decision. > > Best regards > > Marcus > > > > > 2010/1/13 Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net> >> >> Hi, Marcus, >>> >>> I personally prefer non-JRE builds as do most users here, I guess. This >>> decision must be somehow Sun-oriented, I guess? OOo users should have >>> this >>> option, IMHO. >>> If space is the issue, JRE builds are much larger, so it would be a >>> better >>> idea to drop the JRE builds. Or JRE builds could be hosted on Sun mirrors >>> if >>> JRE is the keyword here. >>> >>> At least for Slovenian users I ask of you to build it and give us a link >>> so >>> we can download it and distribute it through our own webspace, even if >>> not >>> OOo-approved. Most Windows users here would prefer them. Then you can >>> delete >>> it from your disks forever. >>> >>> >>> Lp, m. >>> >>> 2010/1/13 Marcus Lange <marcus.la...@sun.com> >>> >>> Hi Martin, >>>> >>>> as defined by the Release Status Meeting on Monday there will be only >>>> JRE >>>> builds (except for Linux 32/64-bit Debian and Mac OS) as we have not >>>> that >>>> much space on the extended mirror system. Because we don't want a >>>> colored >>>> matrix or JRE/non-JRE builds we have decided this way. If there is a >>>> real >>>> need and still enough space we can upload some more non-JRE builds. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Martin Srebotnjak wrote: >>>> >>>> The mirror builds seem to be filling up. >>>>> I looked at: >>>>> http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/OpenOffice.org/extended/3.2.0rc2/ >>>>> There is no Windows-without-JRE install builds, but probably they must >>>>> still >>>>> be uploaded? >>>>> >>>>> Lp, m. >>>>> >>>>> 2010/1/13 Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>>> Lp, m. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/1/13 Marcus Lange <marcus.la...@sun.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Martin, >>>>>> >>>>>> FYI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The upload of builds (Dev build, Beta, RC etc.) will be announced on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> relea...@ooo mailing list. When the download is possible it's >>>>>>> announced >>>>>>> on d...@qa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Martin Srebotnjak wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wait, Rafaella, are RC2 builds already built and available >>>>>>> somewhere? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> m. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/1/13 Rafaella Braconi <rafaella.brac...@sun.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kevin Scannell ha scritto: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Rafaella, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Irish team has a complete localization but somehow we were >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> omitted from the RC2 builds at the link you give below. See >>>>>>>>>> http://l10n.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107057. >>>>>>>>>> Is there anything we can do to get builds in time for testing and >>>>>>>>>> 3.2 release? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thanks for reporting! I've commented and reassigned the issue. If >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RC2 >>>>>>>>> build is not available in Irish (ga) will be built and uploaded. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Rafaella >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@l10n.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@l10n.openoffice.org > >
