Ok, so iframe is not deprecated in XHTML 1.0, but is in 1.1+, replaced with the object tag, but apparently not targetable. So yeah I agree with the iframe as RC is 1.0, hopefully without any stripping of the html part.
I'm not sure what you mean by how much space the message header will use.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:32:58 +1100, Thomas Bruederli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Chris Fordham wrote:
Is the iframe tag now deprecated?
I think the only completely valid way is to use a normal frameset, or
the html part to open in a new window.
It needs to be in a frame or its own window because of possible headers
in the html and particularly the DTD. It would be great for email
clients to support the html part as a actual html document (selectable
DTD) and not some quirks mode (also no stripping of the html part).
I think that clicking on a link to open the html part in a new window by
itself and pass only the html part to that window would be best IMHO.

I already hear the users complain about this. Nobody wants to click
twice to get the message body for reading. iframes would do best here
but I had some problems with the CSS styling, especially the proper
scaling to the window size. We don't know exactly how much space the
message headers will use and this makes it very difficult to set
position, with and height of the message body's iframe.

Thomas

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:35:40 +1100, Thomas Bruederli
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Chris Fordham wrote:
I'm not sure what RC does with HTML parts, but I have heard that it
doesn't really support them - can someone confirm?
I have managed to make hybrid layouts with html 4.01 to work in most
clients.
Lots of servers strip HTML a lot, especially hotmail.

The main problem is that the HTML message has to be displayed INSIDE the
XHTML body of the RoundCube page. RC tries to modify the HTML message
body in order to display it correctly. It worked for most of the test
mails I tried but it's not a 100% guaranty that all HTML show up
correctly. Since RC uses XHTML for its interface a malformed HTML
message (i.e. tags not closed) can indeed mess up the whole interface.
One solution would be to render the HTML message is it's own iframe and
not within the main page.

I cannot confirm that RoundCube does not support HTML messages at all.

Regards,
Thomas

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:51:55 +1100, Tony Zielinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Brady,

I beg to differ with your opinion of the eBay HTML email that he
Stefan Ott
attached.  You say that it was coded using old standards, I'm sure
you're
right, but for a good reason.  I tried using <div> tags for layout
instead
of <table> tags with horrendous display in RoundCube.  It looked
good in
other clients. I submitted a post about this earlier to the dev list,
but no
one responded.

Not related to RoundCube, but try coding all design and layout using a
stylesheet with no inline HTML attributes and viewing it in gmail or
other
another popular webmail.  Outlook and AppleMail display the output
okay for
the most part, except the links don't get the same treatment that they
would
in IE or FireFox... For real kicks, try kMail for KDE.

I always code my HTML email pages plain vanilla HTML 2.0 circa 1995
fashion
for the above reasons. Using 'style' attributes inline with HTML tags
seems
to work okay in the clients I've tested as well as long as you don't
use
'class' or 'id' attributes it seems to work well.

--
Tony Zielinski

-----Original Message-----
From: Brady J. Frey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:35 AM
To: Stefan Ott
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: HTML E-Mails from eBay

Stefan Ott wrote:
Hi,

I use Roundcube 0.1beta and I have problems with E-Mails from eBay. I
only
get a blank page, with all other html mails it works. I attached the
source
of an eBay mail maybe someone can figure it out what causes this
problem.

Thanks
steve`


Aside from the fact that, even for HTML email which is behind the
standards times, that HTML looks like a 5 year old coded it -- the
rendering of all html is based on  the browser you are using -- what
browser is that?









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