Well that certainly puts a different light on things

With this being a regression introduced in 3.x it should be significantly
less contentious to fix.

What would be good is to find when exactly the regression was introduced:
3.0.x or 3.1.x

On Mon 26 Dec 2016 at 21:42, Christian Schulte <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 12/26/16 um 21:07 schrieb Stephen Connolly:
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> > Well a command line switch is useless imho.
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> +1
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> > Suppose I have a multi-module reactor and one module uses version A of
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> > plugin X and another module uses version B.
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> > Now A was built against Maven 3.3.3 and the classpath was "fixed" with
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> > tweaks and hacks to ensure the transitive dependencies worked out
> correctly
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> > (yes they should have filed a bug rather than work around, but life)
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> > B was built against Maven 3.4.0 and all the hacks were removed.
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> > How can we build that reactor with a command line switch? We cannot. The
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> > CLI switch would force with A or B to be wrong.
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> +1
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> Same for dependencies.
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> > We need something that works the way users expect *without* requiring
> that
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> > they change their poms
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> That'd be the best we can do.
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> > This is not something that the user should be able to control directly
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> > IMHO. Adding knobs to tweak the behaviour just complicates things for
> users.
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> +1
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> When deployed, no one knows what knobs had been in effect during
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> deployment. Bad idea. Information must be retained in the POMs.
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> Prerequisites to the rescue.
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> > We should look at the prerequisites of the plugin and give it the correct
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> > classpath for that Maven version (and eg this could include adding in
> Maven
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> > compat for anything pre-3.4.0, aether shims, sonatype shims, etc, mapping
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> > plexus utils etc)
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> +1
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> I just ran various tests against maven-pmd-plugin version 2.3. That
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> version can still be used with Maven 2.0 and that version is the first
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> version introducing an issue where a test artifact overrides a compile
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> artifact.
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> With Maven 2.0.11 and 2.2.1 the runtime classpath seems to be equal to
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> what 3.4.0-SNAPSHOT currently does (test scope dependencies not
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> available at runtime). This is from the Maven 2.2.1 debug messages:
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>  org.apache.maven:maven-artifact:jar:2.0:test (*not setting scope to:
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> compile; local scope test wins*)
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> org.apache.maven:maven-artifact:jar:2.0:test (*selected for test*)
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> MRESOLVER-8 seems to be a Maven 3 regression that went unnoticed. This
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> is something I would not have expected myself.
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