Howdy,

define 3 Java versions in my toolchains.xml, and then add 3 executions for
surefire like here?
https://maven.apache.org/surefire/maven-surefire-plugin/examples/toolchains.html

Thanks
T


On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 6:39 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I claim it is not wasteful to run unit tests on Java 8, 11, and 17, which
> usually is the longest and most resource intensive part of a build.
>
> How would you do that were it not for a GitHub matrix?
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023, 08:01 Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > From recent discussions I see an interesting pattern: it seems that
> people
> > (even our PMCs) are using Maven in a way that is making sure that "same
> > Java version" (I guess vendor + version) is used from "beginning" to
> "end".
> >
> > And "beginning" here means BUILDING (think workstations and CI and so
> on),
> > while "end" means PRODUCTION (deploying the stuff into production).
> >
> > Why is that?
> >
> > We all know that even before this "speedup" of Java releases (so to say,
> up
> > to Java 8) we did put extra effort into supporting this (running Maven on
> > different Java versions and producing another bytecode output). One can:
> > - use source/target compiler flags + animal sniffer (if on Java 8 or
> older)
> > - use release compiler flag (if Java9+ used)
> > - use toolchains
> >
> > Why does any of these above "does not work" for those "aligning Java from
> > beginning to end"?
> >
> > With today's tools like sdkman, jenv, homebrew, jbang, mvnw (and who
> knows
> > what) it is REALLY HARD to miss the automation of getting JDKs and tools
> > (and keeping them up to date!!!) on workstations and CIs (deployment not
> > counted here, but hopefully it is automated as well).
> >
> > Another point is that upcoming Maven 4 has tremendous improvements
> > targeting toolchains.
> >
> > Finally, a bit of digression, but very much related thing: as Niels
> > showcased on other thread in
> > https://github.com/nielsbasjes/ToolChainsInCiBuilds
> >
> > The CI "matrix" build's Java version part can be moved into Maven itself.
> > Personally, I always hated "matrix" as they explode very easily (size
> wise)
> > but in MOST cases they really just "warm the oceans" (from HB) and do not
> > do anything useful. I do keep _matrix useful_ for OS variations, but to
> > rebuild the same commit over and over with Java8, Java11, Java17 only to
> > "be sure" it will work, is really an overkill (and very wasteful). The
> > added beauty of applying this pattern is that one can perform the whole
> > build and testing (using different Javas) even on their own workstations.
> >
> > Does Maven miss some features (aside from those above) to make it
> possible
> > for those "aligning" Java versions to move?
> >
> > Thanks
> > T
> >
>

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