Eclipse can't open a pom.xml file from the command line?  For Intellij-idea
on Mac, Windows or Linux, I'd just do `idea pom.xml`

- Paul

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 11:44 AM Matthias Bünger <runningj...@web.de.invalid>
wrote:

> Hey all,
> in this mail I want to share my experiences / thouhgts I had on my way
> from the decision to contribute some code to the Maven project, because
> I think there are some things which may be improved. But before creating
> issues about that I wanted to write here, as it's heavly opinion based
> (obviously ;) ).
>
> To my background: At my work I don't code that much as some years ago,
> but do a lot of team lead, mentoring and (not only as part of the first
> two things) documentation (funny enough one of the documentation I
> currectly overhaul is the one for onboarind new team members and get
> them to work). I'm also one of the maintainers of the JUnit extension
> library "Pioneer" where I primely care about issues and documentation.
> ---
>
> IDE setup and code style:
>
> When I decided trying to contribute some small code fragements as a
> first step I first tried to setup my IDE. So I checked the coding rules
> on the Code style page
> (https://maven.apache.org/developers/conventions/code.html)
>
>
> As I'm more used to Eclipse and it's workspace concept I tried to set up
> this first. Imported the "import order"-file and all except coding
> style. I read the instructions to compile the palantir Java plugin
> (never heart about palantir before) which worked (I think, needed to
> switch to an older JDK for it) but I noticed nothing in Eclipse of it.
> So I tried IntelliJ as I read on the plugin page that it is available in
> the plugin store there. As not that familiar it took quite a long time
> for me to set up a project (workspace) with multiple maven modules, but
> finally I got it. And also got the palantir plugin to worked.
>
> To finish the story of coding style: After I coded somthing the build
> failed as the Spotless plugin said my code does not match the style.
> That confused me quite a lot as that should be done by the planatir
> plugin. But in some places it did not what the spotless check wanted to
> have. I then decided so give a **** about palantir and only use
> spotless. I think a statement on the website that the spotless plugin is
> configured and can/should be used would make it easier I think
>
>
> Mojo docs:
> After I've set up my IDE I wanted to know how plugins work so I took the
> Mojo docs and tried to understand by using a quite simple plugin (clean
> plugin)
>
>
> When I read the "Common Bugs and Pitfalls" page
> (https://maven.apache.org/plugin-developers/common-bugs.html) I was very
> confused by the code examples. First I wondered why they are all labeld
> with fixme and therefore not up to date? I then realized that all code
> examples are the "don't do it that way" examples, but the "how you do it
> right" is only written in text (or not at all, e.g. the Logging example)
> - without any code examples. From my experience with juniors at my work
> and from how (many) people in the internet people mostly only look at
> the code examples without further reading the sentences around the
> examples.
>
> I think Benjamin agrees me about that, do you? ;)
> (https://x.com/bmarwell/status/1751539018389475558?s=20)
>
> Logging:
> Information about loggin are wide spreaded and I think that's not good.
>
> - At "Maven 3.1.x loggin" what framework Maven uses, but there is not
> shown how to get the correct logger or logging example
> - At the pitfalls page only the bad one is shown, but not the correct one
> - At the "Maven loggin" page it shows that you should you use
> "Logger.getLogger" but in mosts Mojo codes of plugins (let's take a
> SNAPSHOT of the maven site plugin) always "getLog()" is used and it took
> me some time to understand the difference to the pitfalls page bad example
>
> I suggest to bring that in line and connect it more or centralize it.
>
>
> Integration tests:
> I find it hard to find a good documentation about how to write and
> execute integration tests. On the "testing a plugin" page there is a
> link to a wiki article from 2018. Doesn't make me feel compfortable.
>
>
> Other:
> - There's a "TODO creating and using custom packaging" at the plugin
> developer centre start page.
> - There's a formatting error on the pitfalls page
> - I opend my first PR about three weeks ago and didn't get any response
> yet. I know all do this in their spare time and I wouldn't expect
> responses when opening issues (and I didn't get one since months on my
> first JIRA issue), but from my expierence it's always good  to show at
> least some reaction (esp. to new contributes) - even if it's only to
> thank him and to tell him that a review may be delayed.
>
> I know I'm not yet deep into Maven, but I wanted to share my thoughts of
> my first steps.
>
> Have a good weekend
> Matthias
>
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