> people will be able to work on solutions after anyway.
Agreed as they can maintain a fork anyway if they really need.
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From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:50:31 AM
To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Java version for Maven

Plain standard asf votes - or under the vote manager rules as allowed by
asf if it is agreed but means another discussion.

I dont care much the details but keeping energy for this thread starts to
be more negative on the community than anything positive IMHO so hope we
close it with a decision then move on.
Not everybody will be happy but we'll stop cycles hopefully and unhappy
people will be able to work on solutions after anyway.

Le mar. 27 févr. 2024 à 20:02, Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurt...@redhat.com> a
écrit :

> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 8:16 PM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > whose vote would count and what be the majority:)
> > for example should my vote count? or not?
> > or just some committers? but why just committers(or not)(as some of them
> > might have less contributions even than non-committers)?
> > or just pmc?
> > or everyone share 1 vote(wow I don't think it shall work this way)
> >
>
> This is something that should be defined by Apache Foundation and/or Maven
> PMC. I don't plan to neither dive into the discussion more nor to try
> imposing our rules on another project.
> If the project believes that continuing such discussion in circles brings
> anything good - so be it.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurt...@redhat.com> 于2024年2月28日周三 01:15写道:
> >
> > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 6:13 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not sure we'll converge guys but shouldnt we make a vote? Seems we
> all
> > > > understand the impacts technically so maybe time to decide else we'll
> > > still
> > > > be there in a year.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is exactly what I try in the Eclipse community - vote, majority
> wins
> > > and move on.
> > > If there is one thing I'm 100% sure now is that no one from one camp
> will
> > > convince someone from the other camp so all the endless discussions
> bring
> > > only extra stress.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Le mar. 27 févr. 2024 à 16:41, John Neffenger <j...@status6.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > On 2/26/24 11:42 AM, Basil Crow wrote:
> > > > > > We had a similar conversation in the Jenkins community, and I
> wrote
> > > up
> > > > > > our conclusions here:
> > > > >
> > > > > We also had a similar conversation in the NetBeans community, with
> > the
> > > > > final vote to drop JDK 8 (vote result: 20 to 1.5). See here:
> > > > >
> > > > > [VOTE][RESULT] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)
> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/oq8bof3owctq0ot6xwk03n3w45d09zcc
> > > > >
> > > > > In particular, see the comments from James Gosling:
> > > > >
> > > > > Re: Lets talk about JDK 8 (new year edition)
> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/sspm6fy1xq0jn2k8lfprn47v69g88jvh
> > > > >
> > > > >    "So….  In my opinion, JDK8 must die."
> > > > >    "Stop the unholy contortions to coexist.  Kill it.  Nail its
> > coffin
> > > > > closed.  Do not look back."
> > > > >
> > > > > I couldn't agree more. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
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