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On 4 Jan 2012 20:58, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> it added and fix merged in RC branch.
>
> On irc, Robert remember me the upgrade of site plugin version for site
> lifecycle (was mentioned in a previous RC thread)
> I will add that too.
> As it's IMHO very low risk as mvn3.x users already add site plugin
> version in their pom to get site plugin working.
>
> 2012/1/4 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>:
> > i have the fix written and on the 3.0.5 trunk... with some unit tests
> also.
> >
> > been trying to write a core it, but so far all my attempts have seemed
> too
> > heavy to add to the test suite.
> >
> > - Stephen
> >
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> > words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on
> the
> > screen
> > On 4 Jan 2012 08:34, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> 2012/1/4 Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>:
> >> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Stephen Connolly
> >> > <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> also part of the problem in this specific case is that it is tricky
> to
> >> test
> >> >> the release plugin... i may look into refactoring the current tests
> to
> >> be
> >> >> based off of mrm-maven-plugin, as that should open up additional test
> >> >> paths. further i may add some multi-maven version testing so that the
> >> tests
> >> >> run against a couple of maven versions rather than just the invoking
> >> one.
> >> >>
> >> >> but for now we just have to live with the bug by either keeping to
> >> version
> >> >> 2.2.1 (of one of either maven or the release plugin) or wait until
> >> 3.0.5,
> >> >> or beat up olamy to backport the (fairly low risk) fix
> >> >
> >> > Good luck there. His wife just presented him with another offspring, a
> >> > trifle ahead of schedule.
> >>
> >> Usually, this doesn't prevent to hack :-)
> >> Today or tomorrow, I will try to write a core it test for this issue
> >> and have a look at the changes to fix that.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> - Stephen
> >> >>
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> nonsense
> >> >> words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
> on
> >> the
> >> >> screen
> >> >> On 3 Jan 2012 22:51, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 04/01/2012, at 9:04 AM, Ansgar Konermann wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Am 03.01.2012 22:12, schrieb Benson Margulies:
> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Mark Derricutt <m...@talios.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>> Surely something as egregious as allowing releases to break
> should
> >> >>> block
> >> >>> >>> 3.0.4 from being released tho.  As someone who uses GPG in that
> >> manner
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> >>> some of his releases I'd certainly want 3.0.4 to be able to
> >> release...
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I disagree. There's no law requiring people to use 2.2.2 of the
> >> plugin.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Hi,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > that's is an interesting point. No offense here, but what *is* the
> >> law
> >> >>> > w.r.t a "Maven Release"? I'm not that deep into Apache and Maven
> >> >>> > processes, but from what I could learn from public sources so
> far, I
> >> >>> > believe this is not clear altogether, and it might help to discuss
> >> this
> >> >>> > and make up our mind regarding such a "law" (i. e. release
> policy) to
> >> >>> > have a guideline for the future.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Being a bit heretical: is it Maven's policy to release only Maven
> and
> >> >>> > wish the user luck to find out which versions of the core plugins
> >> work
> >> >>> > well with which version of Maven?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Or can the average user expect to be reasonably safe if using the
> >> latest
> >> >>> > release of Maven with the latest release of any core plugin?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > From a user perspective, I perceive Maven as "the Maven
> application
> >> plus
> >> >>> > its core plugins" - they are basically one system. Agreed, it has
> a
> >> >>> > highly modular architecture, and a lot of these modules (=
> plugins)
> >> have
> >> >>> > decoupled release cycles, nevertheless it's IMHO hard to sell to
> the
> >> >>> > average user that the newest bugfix release of Maven with the
> newest
> >> >>> > bugfix release of the release plugin has *more* bugs than the
> >> slightly
> >> >>> > outdated one.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We have a number of "core plugins" with versions set in the parent
> POM
> >> >>> with each release. We use an unsophisticated metric to decide what
> to
> >> use:
> >> >>> - been out for a while without reports of major projects
> >> >>> - someone was motivated to update it
> >> >>>
> >> >>> They'll generally be very stable but may lag the latest releases -
> but
> >> you
> >> >>> should consider those will all work well out of the box.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's on the plugin authors to test their plugins with different
> >> released
> >> >>> versions of Maven and report on compatibility.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For new Maven releases, we rely on the user community testing to
> >> identify
> >> >>> any regressions with various different versions of plugins, so
> there's
> >> no
> >> >>> blessed versions. If you're conservative, you might use the same
> >> policy we
> >> >>> use for the core plugins, though I'd speculate the people inclined
> to
> >> test
> >> >>> the release probably tend to test with close to recent versions of
> >> plugins.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Brett
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Brett Porter
> >> >>> br...@apache.org
> >> >>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >> >>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> >> >>> http://twitter.com/brettporter
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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