On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: > Hi, > > On 12.01.2013 00:39, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >> >>> Am 01/11/2013 03:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: >>>> On 1/10/13 3:56 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: >>>>>> Hi Oliver-Rainer, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: >>>>>>> I have finished the renaming from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache >>>>>>> OpenOffice" - see issue 121388. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has >>>>>>> impact on the following important and critical stuff: - >>>>>>> folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names >>>>>>> and values - ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, >>>>>>> the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not >>>>>>> taken over. >>>>>> for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find >>>>>> the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various >>>>>> operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and >>>>>> values? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, there is no single place in the source code. I also had >>>>> not the resources to clean this up during the renaming work - hint, >>>>> hint, hint :-) >>>>> >>>>> Please have a look at issue 121388, the wiki page referenced in one of >>>>> the issue's comments and the intrinsic changes I have made. >>>>> >>>>> The product installation folder is more or less a form of the >>>>> $PRODUCTNAME + [major version number]. E.g.: - Windows: "Apache >>>>> OpenOffice 3" - Linux: "apache_openoffice3" On Linux platforms we have >>>>> also the basis installation folder. It name is found in >>>>> /main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst >>>>> >>>>> The user profile folder is more or less $PRODUCTNAME/[major version >>>>> number]/ >>>>> >>>>> The Windows registry keys and values can be found in module main/scp2/ >>>>> >>>>> I hope that helps a little bit. >>>> >>>> I was thinking about the name and here I mean the name that is used for >>>> the folder etc. The name is used in the help, in tools option, in the >>>> menu... >>>> >>>> We changed "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache OpenOffice" so good so far. But >>>> would it be nicer to shorten the folder, menu entries, ... to simply >>>> OpenOffice >>>> >>>> Folders Linux: /opt/openoffice4 Mac: OpenOffice.app Windows: OpenOffice >>>> 4 >>>> >>>> Tools Option OpenOffice OpenOffice Writer OpenOffice ... >>>> >>>> Help OpenOffice instead of hundreds of "Apache OpenOffice" >>>> >>>> The idea is that the project and product is called Apache OpenOffice but >>>> in practice we would use in the product the short from OpenOffice. The >>>> intro, start center, about can of course use images where we use "Apache >>>> OpenOffice". >>>> >>>> Well it's just an idea and I know it would require some further work but >>>> now would be the time for it. I believe legally should it be ok today but >>>> it have to checked to be safe. >>>> >>>> What's your opinion? >>> >>> In general a very good idea: Shorter menu entries, etc. and a higher >>> attention of the open source product. >>> >>> And yes, we should get this clarified from trademarks@. >> >> If it is called Apache OpenOffice software or product on first use on certain >> pages then it is permissible to use short forms like OpenOffice in various >> places. There is no trouble with that approach. Look at the Apache Hadoop >> project's home page - http://hadoop.apache.org/ >> >> We should make sure that somewhere we use OpenOffice.org ® for the link to >> the website to preserve that trademark in certain jurisdictions. >> > > As you might have seen, I also changed "OpenOffice.org website" to "Apache > OpenOffice website" in some place of the help content. > > Dave, do you think we should keep "OpenOffice.org" in such cases?
In order to preserve registered trademark in places like China we have to have places where we show and use OpenOffice.org®. Using that for the website is one easy and important way to do that. Is there room for a phase like "The Apache OpenOffice product website at OpenOffice.org®"? We should likely include this in the footer in the website. Probably this needs to be a full discussion under its own topic. Regards, Dave > > Best regards, Oliver.
