On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/25/13 4:36 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On 2/21/13 10:05 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 09:22:34AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>> The first step should be a simple check if an Addons.xcu is
>>>>>>> contained at all. Something like "unzip -l <extension> | grep
>>>>>>> Addons.xcu" should be enough. The second step if an
>>>>>>> Addons.xcu is contained is to check for the "<node
>>>>>>> oor:name="OfficeToolBar">" entry. Only if this entry exists
>>>>>>> the Addons.xcu the extension has to be updated.
>>>>
>>>> This might be error prone, because the file can have any name, all
>>>> it matters is the media type in the META-INF manifest and the OO
>>>> registry package and name in the file itself.
>>>>
>>>> While it's highly rare to find a lala.lala, I've found an
>>>> "addons.xcu" (in lowercase). No wonder there is no OfficeToolBar in
>>>> this particular extension, but the extension does not work in AOO
>>>> 4.0 due to API changes (what shows that the whole discussion
>>>> centered on the schema change is full of ungrounded assumptions,
>>>> and lack of knowledge on the subject).
>>>
>>> ignore case is probably a good idea, a complete different name is
>>> probably rather seldom. But from a technical point of view you are
>>> correct.
>>>
>>> We don't need exact data but it would be nice to get an impression how
>>> often it is used.
>
> it would definitely help to get an overview about which extension we are
> talking. Based on this info we could contact the owners and can inform
> them about the change.

Below the list of Extensions top downloads during the last month:

#1 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3620 Monthly: 1725
#2 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/137 Monthly: 1583
#3 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4303 Monthly: 1307
#4 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/496 Monthly: 1221
#5 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/415 Monthly: 649
#6 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4016 Monthly: 645
#7 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/567 Monthly: 424
#8 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2659 Monthly: 399
#9 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1719 Monthly: 368
#10 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/5510 Monthly: 330
#11 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/383 Monthly: 328
#12 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2649 Monthly: 311
#13 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2355 Monthly: 224
#14 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3023 Monthly: 218
#15 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/5305 Monthly: 203
#16 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/26 Monthly: 189
#17 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1210 Monthly: 173
#18 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3286 Monthly: 167
#19 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/545 Monthly: 163
#20 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4710 Monthly: 156
#21 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3902 Monthly: 153
#22 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/5595 Monthly: 152
#23 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4849 Monthly: 145
#24 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2771 Monthly: 135
#25 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4410 Monthly: 135
#26 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/5151 Monthly: 133
#27 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2169 Monthly: 131
#28 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/283 Monthly: 130
#29 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3661 Monthly: 122
#30 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3700 Monthly: 119
#31 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4213 Monthly: 117
#32 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4658 Monthly: 117
#33 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2201 Monthly: 111
#34 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1798 Monthly: 89
#35 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/5392 Monthly: 88
#36 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/5317 Monthly: 87
#37 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/847 Monthly: 83
#38 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1039 Monthly: 80
#39 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/207 Monthly: 76
#40 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4739 Monthly: 65
#41 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/640 Monthly: 64
#42 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1864 Monthly: 61
#43 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3909 Monthly: 60
#44 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4150 Monthly: 54
#45 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4798 Monthly: 54
#46 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2085 Monthly: 50
#47 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/603 Monthly: 49
#48 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4979 Monthly: 48
#49 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/4361 Monthly: 45
#50 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/3409 Monthly: 42

Roberto

> Juergen
>
>
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 242 extensions contain  addons.xcu stensioni (total: 1065
>>>>>> releases), 430 estensions don't (total: 1660 releases). Do you
>>>>>> want us to check how many contain OfficeToolBar?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you could run a short script to check it, it would be very
>>>>> useful for us to make a final decision.
>>
>> Officetoolbar used within 137 extensions (553 releases).
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you can also provide some numbers about their downloads.
>>>>> Only th extensions that contain an Addons.xcu with OfficeToolBar
>>
>> That's not really trivial, but it would be easier to figure out how
>> many among top 50 contain Addons.xcu with OfficeToolBar.
>>
>> Would it make the trick? If not I'll work on how to compute those numbers.
>>
>> Let me know,
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>>
>>>> It would also be interesting to know the last time the extension
>>>> was updated; besides that expecting unmaintained extensions to work
>>>> on a new major release might not be plausible, the extension is
>>>> likely not be adapted to any change if it is unmaintained, no
>>>> matter how popular it is (example: the most popular, Oracle PDF
>>>> Import Extension, Downloads: Week: 12,706, unmaintained since Dec.
>>>> 2010, seems to be broken - according to the first three comments).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards

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