On 3/26/13 4:00 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcas...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 >> >> >> yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add another bullet point to a microsoft >> presentation titled 'how Microsoft Office is better than >> OpenOfffice.org".... OO.o lacks database? check!" >> >> My opinion is that maybe Sun put HSQLDB in there to fill in the need for a >> resident database engine, which in the commercial offering (StarOffice) was >> filled by Adabas D. >> >> One can still read the positive reviews of StarOffice where the database >> module is praised: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Sun-Microsystems-0614647643195-StarOffice-7/dp/B0000DG2N4 >> >> //// >> * StarOffice Adabas (database application) is included (getting MS Access >> requires buying MS Office Pro) and is easier to use than MS Access. Adabas >> integrates with other StarOffice apps so, for instance, users can easily >> create mail merge documents. >> /// >> >> So, if HSQLDB is not up to par, maybe the realistic solution is to find a >> database engine lightweight and powerful enough to take the role that >> Adabas D had in StarOffice?. >> >> FC >> PS: I read this whole thread as 'we don't want to maintain this code, since >> we don't understand it, and we fear it's buggy'. But the solution in any >> case is replacing the database module for another, or improving the >> existing code, not making excuses for saying 'people don't use databases >> after all so it should be gone'. > > +1 > > Again I ask: where are the Bugzilla bugs? > > A quick search finds a corruption bug > (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=55496) which states: > "While it's difficult to fix this with our current approach, where the data is > just some sub-streams in a ZIP package, we need to somehow address this. I > fear > this might in fact only be possible with a package format (replacing the ZIP > package format for this purpose) which allows O(1) random access to all of its > parts." > > If that's the only problem, I don't think the author of that message > realized that there is a way to get O(1) random access to the contents > of a zipped file: ZIP files allow each archived file to use its own > compression type, including no compression. HSQLDB could write > directly to its uncompressed byte range in the ZIP file, with a thin > shim checking for when it attempts to write beyond the end of this > range (ie. grow the database), and then it could expand the ZIP file > to accommodate it. With a bit of cleverness, this could even be done > in-place, by keeping the HSQL database at the end of the ZIP file > (when possible), and just moving up and updating the ZIP directories > (and other files, when it's not at the end) that follow it. > > Oh and as for Jürgen's comment: > +1 to competing with Microsoft, because any good office suite > naturally will - and should.
I stopped dreaming at least for this specific topic and be more realistic ;-) Juergen > > Damjan > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
