On 22 October 2013 12:47, imacat <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:

> On 2013/10/22 16:10, imacat said:
> > On 2013/10/22 15:42, janI said:
> >> On 22 October 2013 03:02, imacat <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:
> >>> On 2013/10/22 02:37, janI said:
> >>>> On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson <pct...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200:
> >>>>>> Tony Stevenson wrote:
> >>>>>>> Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200:
> >>>> Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer
> was
> >>>> that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to
> help.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following:
> >>>
> >>>     You can ignore me if my help is not needed.  But, still,
> >>
> >> I would never ignore a helping hand, and especially not a qualifed one
> as
> >> yours.
> >
> >     Ah...  That is totally unnecessary. ^^;
> >
> >>>> 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum
> databases
> >>>> into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum,
> >>>> about 10min each (to copy the tables).
> >>>>  If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam.
> >>>     That's 0-6 UTC+8 here.  I have works on Friday.  I can stay up to
> at
> >>> most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that.
> >>
> >> ok, lets do this in another way, please select 2 forums (that have the
> >> lowest usage) from the db list below:
> >>
> >> | en                 |
> >> | es                 |
> >> | fr                 |
> >> | hu                 |
> >> | it                 |
> >> | ja                 |
> >> | nl                 |
> >> | pl                 |
> >> | vi                 |
> >> | zh                 |
> >> +--------------------+
> >>
> >> Then I will move tables in these 2 and convert the FULLTEXT tables, as
> soon
> >> as I hear from you, and then you can test. Please give me a UTC time,
> where
> >> you can test (today/tomorrow), then I do the changes just before that
> time.
> >
> >     Ah... it's embarrassing that, I will travel to another city later to
> > deliver an OpenOffice macro class for two days, and will return before
> > Thursday evening (16-22 UTC). ^^;  That's the earliest time I'm
> > available this week.
> >
> >     And, currently, VI has the lowest traffic.  But we have to notify
> > Phan first.
>
>     But I suppose this is the time "back up" or "cover" is for. :p  You
> may ask RGB or Phan for help on this.
>

thx, I have already asked Phan, with ref. to RGB as well.

I am btw making a test forum, http://forum.openoffice.org/test/forum so I
can test the table changes without disturbing anyone. I have copied the EN
db for that purpose.

rgds
jan I.


> >> If it works with these 2 forums, I feel more secure with the rest, and
> >> maybe Ricardo can do a check on them since he is in the same TZ.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>     And what do you mean by "combining short forum databases into the
> EN
> >>> databases"?  So we will only have EN database in the future?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes, and it will problaly be called "forumsaoodb".
> >>
> >> Remark, this is not a problem because all tables (in use) have the
> naming
> >> standard:
> >>      phpbb_<forum>_<table>
> >>
> >> if you look e.g. in IT, you will see
> >> | phpbb_it_sessions_keys        |
> >> | phpbb_it_sitelist             |
> >> | phpbb_it_smilies              |
> >>
> >>
> >> There are 2 databases I dont understand at the moment:
> >>
> >> | ps_helper          |
> >> | test               |
> >>
> >> any ideas ?
> >
> >     The "ps_helper" database:
> >
> > https://www.google.com.tw/#q=ps_helper+mysql
> >
> >     The "test" database can be safely ignored.  It's a standard MySQL
> > database for testing purpose.  When installing Perl DBD::mysql library,
> > we need a database to test if DBD::mysql is working.  There should
> > always a database named "test" (although some DB admins prefer to remove
> > it), but you do not need to bother with its contents.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens
> online,
> >>>> and only means slow system while I do it.
> >>>
> >>>     That is 16-19 UTC+8.  Normally I would be stuck in the traffic
> going
> >>> home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if
> necessary.
> >>>
> >>
> >>  see above.
> >>
> >>
> >>>> 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the
> forums
> >>>> down for approx 2hours to move the databases.
> >>>
> >>>     That would be perfect for me.
> >>>
> >> it would for me too, but pctony has to go to hospital with his kid, so
> we
> >> try to see if we can do it thursday (24/10).
> >>
> >> I would really apriciate your help with the first 2 forums, to make a
> more
> >> thorough test. And then hope that ricardo could do a smoke test on the
> >> others.
> >>
> >> This is of course a service that infra provides so if you want it
> >> postponed, we will have to find  a way.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>     And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25).  It's confusing to
> >>> guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1.  (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as
> >>> 10/25 is very close.)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sorry about that, good idea.
> >>
> >> rgds
> >> jan I.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we
> >>> need
> >>>> someone with access to all forums to help with the test.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could this be an acceptable plan ?  The time is needed, but if
> preferred
> >>> I
> >>>> can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony).
> >>>>
> >>>> rgds
> >>>> jan I.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP,
> >>> please.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes.  Which is pretty fast
> >>>>> considering all the changes that had to be incorporated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>   Andrea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Tony
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----------------------------------
> >>>>> Tony Stevenson
> >>>>>
> >>>>> t...@pc-tony.com
> >>>>> pct...@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.pc-tony.com
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