On 3/25/14 7:52 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
> fragmenting the discussion.

thank you for all the work on the survey, I think nit is very useful

more comments below

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
> 133 responses
> 
> "Where did you first hear about the Apache OpenOffice Beta?"
> 
> OpenOffice announcement mailing list   44.36%
> OpenOffice development mailing list   6.77%
> OpenOffice users mailing list  11.28%
> OpenOffice Community Forum  0.75%
> OpenOffice website 9.02%
> OpenOffice Project Blog 2.26%
> Facebook 3.01%
> Twitter  1.50%
> Google+  6.02%
> News article  3.01%
> Other  6.77%
> No answer  5.26%
> 
> [Rob:  Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum?
> 
> Other: mentioned web searches and coverage on other mailing lists,
> e.g., an NVDA mailing list.]
> 
> 
> What is your relationship to the Apache OpenOffice project?
> 
> User  81.95%
> Project volunteer  6.02%
> Other 2.26%
> No answer 9.77%
> 
> [Rob: Good, we're getting users not just the same people who already
> tried the RC]
> 
> Why did you decide to download and install the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
> 
> 
> I wanted to test my extension, workflow or other system to make sure
> it worked with 4.1  5.26%
> 
> I was curious to see what was coming in the next release of
> OpenOffice.  63.91%
> I hoped that Beta would fix a problem I was having with an earlier
> version of OpenOffice. 18.05%
> 
> I wanted to help test OpenOffice project by offering my early feedback 23.31%
> 
> I wanted to help improve the quality of OpenOffice by looking for bugs
> in the Beta 23.31%

JSC: the latter 2 answers are promising

> 
> What version(s) of Mac OS did you use?
> 
> 10.5  0.00%
> 10.6  0.00%
> 10.7  11.11%
> 10.8  0.00%
> 10.9  0.00%
> 10.9.1  0.00%
> 10.9.2  88.89%
> 

JSC: interesting is that only 10.7 and 10.9.2 systems were used. Ok ,
10.7 don't work anymore but I mean more the lack of 10.8, 10.9 10.9.1.
Good to see that people upgrade fast

> 
> What Extensions did you use?
> 
> [ Rob: 22 Responses.  Before giving the list I'll mention 2 responses
> noted problems:
> 
> 1) Presentation Minimize not working (not details)
> 
> 2)  Presenter Console 1.1.0, PDF Import 1.0.4 won't install
> 
> 3) User needed to install Pt dictionary since it was missing in the
> install set and Langpack
> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124423)]
> 

JSC: we should at least prevent the minimizer and presenter from
installation ... Have to check


> 
> Which OpenOffice applications did you use from the Beta?
> 
> Writer 87.22%
> Calc 57.14%
> Impress  27.07%
> Draw 19.55%
> Base  16.54%
> 
> [Rob: Glad to see that Base got some attention.]

JSC: nevertheless is Base an area where we have a lack of volunteers and
knowledge

> 
> Which of the following new features did you try?
> 
> 
> 64-bit Mac support  7.52%
> Integrated iAccessible2  4.51%
> Annotations of text ranges in Writer. 24.81%
> In-place editing of text fields in Writer  31.58%
> Interactive image crop feature for Impress and Draw 15.79%
> Enhanced support for 3D charts 12.03%
> 
> Did you encounter any serious problems in your use of Apache
> OpenOffice 4.1 that you did not already report to us via  Bugzilla or
> our mailing lists?
> 
> Yes 11.28%
> No 73.68%
> No answer 15.04%
> 

JSC: this is good, >76% with no serious problems is promising and I hope
we were able to address at least most of the problems



> 
> Please describe the issue(s) you encountered.
> 
> 1. [Mac OS 10.9.2 user]
> 
> When I open old openoffice docs, it tells me that all fields cannot be
> opened, but it looks fine when it's opened.
> 
> Also, when I save a doc, it tells me that there is an error, that it
> didn't save it when in fact it really did save it.

JSC: this was my fault and a rebuilt (no changes were necessary) would
have been a good idea. A further reason why a working Mac build bot is a
"must"requirement

> 
> 
> 2. Cant install on Ubuntu, No deb file, No PPA, Just one install file
> 
> 3. [Windws 8.1 user]
> 
>  After installing and using, the program will not open again. The
> computer must be rebooted to get the Open Office Beta to restart. This
> event has occurred several times.
> 
> 4 [Windows 7 user].
> 
> A. In OO Calc all Formulas already set will change to REF, when any of
> the linked file is causing problem.
> 
> B. Sometimes it showing like macros are disabled, when opening any
> Calc file. And we cannot remove that also.
> 
> C. We cannot set date format like dd/mm/yyyy
> 
> D. It's too slow when opening OO calc containing more than 20 sheets.
> 
> E. After we open any excel file containing page break, then any other
> file will open after restarting the system.
> 
> 
> 5 [Linux Mint user]
> 
> OpenOffice Base
> 
> Create a simple query
> Define the order of fields
> Save the query
> 
> Open in design mode the query
> Order are lost!!!
> 
> Open in SQL view the query
> Order is correct!!!
> 
> 6. [Windows XP user]
> 
> desktop icon did not work
> did not pickup all personal settings
> backup path
> load save options
> tab stops setting
> default basic font
> footnote setting in default page in writer
> 
> 
> 7.
> 
> A. NVDA is unable to report justification (left, right, centered, etc)
> information when using its shortcut key NVDA+F for formatting summary.
> Other font info, such as attributes and font, is reported.
> 
> B. with NVDA, after making changes to text attributes via the context
> menu in a Writer document, I am unable to move the cursor with
> ctrl+left/right arrows until I clear the selection by pressing down
> arrow.
> 
> 8. [Ubuntu 13.10 user] Crashes on start.
> 
> 9. Invisible scrollbars
> 
> 10.  [Windows 8.1 user] Worked well, and then suddenly stopped
> functioning entirely. Can no longer open OpenOffice 4.1
> 
> 11. [Windows 7 user] The first time I used it the program just stopped
> after 30 minutes
> 
> 11. AOO Beta seems not to work well with screen reader in dialog boxes
> in Calc and Writer. Screen reader is NVDA.
> 
> 12. [OpenSuse user] No desktop integration, but that might be normal
> in a beta release

JSC: indeed normal for the beta but we still have a problem when LO is
installed ...

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