On 03/05/2015 10:26 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I am aligned with Simon and Louis on this. > > Part of the reason for knowing who moderators and administrators are > is for transparency. Civil names (sometimes pseudonyms, such as > RGB-ES) could be used, although (optional?) Apache IDs are very handy > too. > > Another reason is so if someone goes missing or there is some sort of > turnover, it is possible to easily determine that replacements or > additions are required in order to have adequate coverage. That is > related to sustainability. One cannot address sustainability if it > is unknown who the incumbents are and where it is useful to add/train > additional contributors. > > It is not necessary to supply email addresses, which is apparently > the main concern, especially because some folks use private email > addresses that are not widely-published for some mailings. (Those > who have an Apache ID often do not use the corresponding email > address, even on private lists, and it always makes determination of > binding votes all the more tricky.) > > Knowing who is on the PMC and who is the Chair is a different matter > and that is easily found, just as it is easy to determine who are the > committers on Apache OpenOffice. In all of these cases, the Apache > ID is easy to determine even if it is not listed. > > I fail to understand why anonymity is important for any of these list > administration roles, even for private@ and security@. From my > perspective, visibility comes with taking on those duties, especially > since there is unusual karma involved. And having it recorded in a > public page that is kept current goes with the importance of having > the information current and readily available. > > I definitely agree this is a conversation for dev@. > > - Dennis
It seems our changes to make the PMC FAQ page make more sense had some unintended, and based on this thread, some undesirable consequences. Maybe some solutions for this-- [1] Put moderators on the Project mailing list page. [2] Add a new cwiki page under Directory of Volunteers listing mailing list moderators (easier to change but that could be a problem) Other suggestions? > > -----Original Message----- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: > Thursday, March 5, 2015 07:39 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: > Re: PMC FAQ update > > [ ... ] > > If people want to tell the world what they do in such detail, they > should publish it, we should not publish peoples names without the > consent of the people. > > My concern is not so much having the list of names, but more that it > is forced to participate. If people added themself to the list it > would be ok because it would be their own choice. > > rgds jan i > > [ ... ] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "An old horse for a long, hard road, a young pony for a quick ride." -- Texas Bix Bender --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
