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> On Apr 7, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
>> Am 05.04.23 um 07:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> What do you suggest?
>> I do not see in the mail calls for action in this regard. And the status quo
>> is that we will not Push anyone out or define some sort of activity
>> requirement.
>
> I clearly see a message to all of our PMC members, that are inactive for
> years (without notifying the PMC), not subscribed to private@ or working
> for a company that probably forbids them to contribute to our project to
> take action!
>
> The reason for our "Status Quo" is just that nobody wanted to invest the
> time.
>
> But let's take that discussion to private@.
1. I view this part as a message to PMCs where there are not enough active PMC
members. We have enough active members.
2. My personal opinion is that inactive PMC members are not a problem.
3. PMC members energy would be better spent finding new committers and
promoting committers to the PMC.
It’s time to work on the board report. I’ll include a summary activity review
of the PMC members.
Best,
Dave
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 4. April 2023 17:13:02 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel
>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> time to start a discussion about our dormant PMC members?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 29.03.23 um 14:42 schrieb Rich Bowen:
>>>> Dear Apache Project Management Committee (PMC) members,
>>>>
>>>> The Board wants to take just a moment of your time to communicate a few
>>>> things that seem to have been forgotten by a number of PMC members,
>>>> across the Foundation, over the past few years. Please note that this
>>>> is being sent to all projects - yours has not been singled out.
>>>>
>>>> The Project Management Committee (PMC) as a whole[1] is tasked with the
>>>> oversight, health, and sustainability of the project. The PMC members
>>>> are responsible collectively, and individually, for ensuring that the
>>>> project operates in a way that is in line with ASF philosophy, and in a
>>>> way that serves the developers and users of the project.
>>>>
>>>> The PMC Chair is not the project leader, in any sense. It is the person
>>>> who files board reports and makes sure they are delivered on time. It
>>>> is the secretary for the project, and the project’s ambassador to the
>>>> Board of Directors. The VP title is given as an artifact of US
>>>> corporate law, and not because the PMC Chair has any special powers. If
>>>> you are treating your PMC Chair as the project lead, or granting them
>>>> any other special powers or privileges, you need to be aware that
>>>> that’s not the intent of the Chair role. The Chair is a PMC member peer
>>>> with a few extra duties.
>>>>
>>>> Every PMC member has an equal voice in deliberations. Each has one
>>>> vote. Each has veto power. Every vote weighs the same. It is not only
>>>> your right, but it is your obligation, to use that vote for the good of
>>>> the project and its users, not to appease the Chair, your employer, or
>>>> any other voice in the project.
>>>>
>>>> Every PMC member can, and should, nominate new committers, and new PMC
>>>> members. This is not the sole domain of the PMC Chair. This might be
>>>> your most important responsibility to the project, as succession
>>>> planning is the path to sustainability.
>>>>
>>>> Every PMC member can, and should, respond when the Board sends email to
>>>> your private list. You should not wait for the PMC Chair to respond.
>>>> The Board views the entire PMC as responsible for the project, not just
>>>> one member.
>>>>
>>>> Every PMC member should be subscribed to the private@ mailing list. If
>>>> you are not, then you are neglecting your duty of oversight. If you no
>>>> longer wish to be responsible for oversight of the project, you should
>>>> resign your PMC seat, not merely drop off of the private@ list and
>>>> ignore it. You can determine which PMC members are not subscribed to
>>>> your private list by looking at your PMC roster at
>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/ Names with an asterisk (*)
>>>> next to them are not subscribed to the list. We encourage you to take a
>>>> moment to contact them with this information.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your attention to these matters, and thank you for
>>>> keeping our projects healthy.
>>>>
>>>> Rich, for The Board of Directors
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members
>>>>
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