Lari and Matteo, True to what both of you to wrote. My point is how this may look to new community members.
Think outside in for a few minutes. Even if there is no agenda I think a reminder before the meeting and then a summary like what Michael provided, or even a recording would really, really help. Best, Dave > On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:44 AM, Matteo Merli <matteo.me...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > The meeting is being conducted in the same exact way as it was when you > we’re participating in it. > > > -- > Matteo Merli > <matteo.me...@gmail.com> > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:43 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi - >> >> I see from the last meeting the following agenda: >> >>> 2024/02/29 >>> Attendees: >>> Lari Hotari >>> Jonas >>> Kevin Lu >>> Frank Kelly >>> Asaf Mesika >>> Chris Bono >>> David Jensen >>> >>> Agenda >>> PIP-341: Pluggable client metrics tracker interface >>> 1. Should the OTel implementation be included in the PIP, or as a >> separate follow-up PIP? >>> 2. Do we want to maintain compatibility with the existing stats system >> (ex. the public Producer /Consumer’s getStats() API), or keep the tracker >> interface completely separate (and deprecate the old system)? The current >> PIP attempts to maintain full compatibility, but I have detailed some of >> the challenges/solutions for maintaining compatibility with the old system. >>> Here is the draft https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/22145 < >> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/22145> >>> Trivy container scan PR (https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/22063 < >> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/22063>) >>> Pulsar-manager >>> Release notes / Upgrade notes . Making it easier to upgrade to newer >> Pulsar versions >>> Cherry-pick vs cascade branch merge >> >> I do not recall that any of this discussion made it to the mailing list. >> It looks like decisions are being made in the meeting. >> >> For example: >> 1. Is there anything in the PIP-341 discussion that could not have been >> brought to the mailing list in a [DISCUSS] PIP-341 thread? >> The only thing I can find on a mailing list is this thread. >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/nott6fyo2vylv1d7nq3zwhsojm05fkgr < >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/nott6fyo2vylv1d7nq3zwhsojm05fkgr> >> 2, Trivy - I don’t see it brought back: >> https://lists.apache.org/list?*@pulsar.apache.org:dfr=2024-1-1|dto=2024-3-6:Trivy >> < >> https://lists.apache.org/list?*@pulsar.apache.org:dfr=2024-1-1%7Cdto=2024-3-6:Trivy >>> >> 3. Pulsar Manager - Nothing brought back to the mailing list: >> https://lists.apache.org/list?dev@pulsar.apache.org:dfr=2024-1-1|dto=2024-3-6:pulsar%20manager >> <https://lists.apache.org/list?dev@pulsar.apache.org:dfr=2024-1-1%7Cdto=2024-3-6:pulsar%20manager> >> < >> https://lists.apache.org/list?dev@pulsar.apache.org:dfr=2024-1-1%7Cdto=2024-3-6:pulsar%20manager >>> >> 4. Cherry pick question came back as this wall of text: >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/j6qvt45rndnvjypcmqxsfmddqt41bxjv < >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/j6qvt45rndnvjypcmqxsfmddqt41bxjv> >> >> I can see how this can look to an outsider like decisions are being made >> in a non-open manner in a synchronous meeting. >> >> If you wish to continue with this meeting then please publish the agenda >> in advance to the Mailing List! >> >> Best, >> Dave >> >>
