On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > today fluido 1.0 came out. > > Here is my first draft (similar to Maurizios): > > http://code.grobmeier.de/struts-draft-v1/ > (just one page) > > I have added a hero section.
A what? > Unfortunately I needed to remove the h2, h3 etc to make this work > because of a doxia bug. It seems it is already fixed in trunk, so I > think we can leave it now and replace it later. (the bug replaces h2 > with <div class="secton"><h2>... - this kills everything) I'd say the missing h2, h3, et al, is a showstopper. > I think we should make the text somehow smaller if possible. It is > very much too read and probably we should just have a teaser on the > the various paragraphs. I disagree. The Recent Releases section needs to come back to the top, where it is prominent for the majority of existing users, who are returning for the latest update. The remainder of the page is designed for those new to Struts, and there needs to be enough meat right there on the home page to hold their interest and entice them to stay on the site, rather than just provide a bunch of links and hope they'll click on one. > In addtion, we should use some kind of "news format". Like: > > 10.12.2001 > Struts 2.2.3.1 released > This release contains a security fix. > See: Release Note > > And so on. I mean: date, short headline, short content (just one > sentence) and the link to the release notes. For releases, that's exactly what Recent Releases is for, and that's why it should be at the top. Other announcements are on the Announcements page, linked from the menu. > So - what do you think abou it? I see some significant issues with the sample home page: * The dark menu bar thing at the top wraps in a weird way, and starts to cover up the logos, which looks really bad. (And it's not obvious that it's a wrapping issue unless you have enough real estate to resize and avoid the wrap.) There are also weird garbage artifacts when you work with this menu bar. Given that it provides no additional functionality, is very ugly, and doesn't work well, I'd recommend scrapping it. * There's a huge waste of space with just "Apache Struts" in a big font, one sentence, and two buttons. Given that this is right below both the ASF logo, at top left, and the Struts logo, at top right, this serves no function and just takes up space - and prime real estate, at that - and forces everyone to scroll to get to anything useful. * The column width does not increase as I resize my browser window. Yet I'm forced to resize the window to get the menu to render properly. * We need proper headings (as mentioned above) rather than the random first words in a section in a big bold font. Section titles are chosen for meaning. * The release information at the bottom is in a super-narrow column for no apparent reason, again forcing me to scroll unnecessarily. * The Next link, leading to the sequence running through our pages, is missing completely. * Visited links are not coloured differently from unvisited ones. Overall, it looks pretty and trendy, but actual usability has gone down the tubes and is pretty awful. I'd personally prefer to see us stick with what we have unless the usability can be brought back to at least what we have now. Usability is far more important than pretty or trendy. -- Martin Cooper > Cheers > Christian > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara > <mcucchi...@apache.org> wrote: >> Just for the record looks like Simone has already moved out of the >> sandbox the plugin >> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/skins/trunk/maven-fluido-skin/ >> >> Anyway I would like to see a kind of refresh on struts website, you >> can count on my help. >> >> Twitter :http://www.twitter.com/m_cucchiara >> G+ :https://plus.google.com/107903711540963855921 >> Linkedin :http://www.linkedin.com/in/mauriziocucchiara >> >> Maurizio Cucchiara >> >> >> >> On 16 November 2011 17:47, Maurizio Cucchiara <mcucchi...@apache.org> wrote: >>> Hi Christian, >>> I have done some tests a couple of weeks ago, IIRC there was some >>> issue using the fluido plugin. >>> For what concern the website, consider that struts website root >>> resides, as you noticed before, belong the following path >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/site/ >>> >>> Here there is the S2 website (nothing more than a single page :) ) >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/src/site/ >>> >>> And the third one, is used by the Confluence export plugin (I'm pretty >>> sure, though I could be wrong) >>> >>> With that saying, I published the fluido verson of struts website >>> http://people.apache.org/~mcucchiara/struts/www/ >>> Let's see the first impressions (for example I just realized that >>> fluido doesn't provide the links to S1, S2 on top bar). >>> >>> Twitter :http://www.twitter.com/m_cucchiara >>> G+ :https://plus.google.com/107903711540963855921 >>> Linkedin :http://www.linkedin.com/in/mauriziocucchiara >>> >>> Maurizio Cucchiara >>> >>> >>> >>> On 16 November 2011 16:50, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hey folks, >>>> >>>> I have contributed a little to the efford of Simone Tripodi to create >>>> a maven skin called fluido. >>>> It is based on the great bootstrap css framework. >>>> >>>> Here is an example: >>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>>> >>>> Simone has proposed to move this skin now to maven proper (currently >>>> in sandbox) and all participants are working straight to a release. >>>> >>>> Now, if there is an interest (and I think so) I volunteer to migrate >>>> the Struts website to this new skin, once it is available. >>>> >>>> Would be nice to hear some opinions and maybe some "wishes" if there >>>> are any before I start to do the work. >>>> >>>> For reference, here is the Bootstrap website: >>>> http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ >>>> >>>> I have found this repository which could be skinned: >>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/site/ >>>> >>>> Here is some more >>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/src/site/ >>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/ >>>> >>>> I am not sure about these sites - how are they used? >>>> It seems esp the second link has something to do with Confluence. >>>> >>>> Am I missing anything else? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >> > > > > -- > http://www.grobmeier.de > https://www.timeandbill.de > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
