On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 11:45, <mcatanz...@gnome.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > wrote: > > But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one thing, this has > been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on hardware. Second, > there are people who really could be happily running Fedora but since we > don't check the tickbox, they don't even look at us seriously. I'd love to > change these things. To do that, we need something that lasts for 36-48 > months. > > > Is 36 months an absolute minimum for getting onto consumer laptops? > > Don't underestimate the difficulty of adding an extra year. 48 months is a > *lot* harder than 36. 36 is a lot harder than 24 or 27 (2 years plus 3 month > upgrade window). >
From what I have talked with in the past.. 3 years is their bare minimum and 7 is their what we really want. It usually takes the vendor about 3-6 months of work to make sure the OS works on their hardware without major problems and then they want people to buy support contracts for 3-5 years where the number of problems needed in year 3-5 are none. [This means that they want to have Fedora N for 3-6 months before their laptops ship with it. So you ship them a frozen preload before you release to public. They also want any shipped to 'last' for the warranty cycle because trying to deal with update questions when N eol's in the middle costs them a lot.] This matches the majority of laptop buyers whether they are developers or home users. They cycle a laptop 4 to 5 years with 7-8 looking to be the new average. They also don't update their OS unless it does it auto-magically for them. This is where the majority of profits for laptop sales come from so the manufacturers aim to please this segment most. There isn't a large margin on laptop sales anymore -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
