On 19/03/13 01:04 AM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things
the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.

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If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean,
_fine_. But seriously: sometimes papering it over is just the right
thing to do.

I disagree.  This particular problem points out a problem that is only
going to become more of a problem as the internationalization of
software increases.  Not everything is ASCII or English, and not
defensively programming for such cases is short-sighted.

Perhaps we are getting "burned out" by the hectic pace that Fedora tries
to keep with a six-month release cycle.  I know I sat out a lot of the
18 cycle due to a sense of being overwhelmed by the rush.

I don't object at all to fixing UTF-8 issues, but it seems needlessly stressful to force ourselves to do so as a part of release validation, with booby traps exploding all around us. It's the kind of thing that can easily be worked on in a less stressful manner. Instead of using the development method 'let's break it now in our main product and fix stuff as we happen across it', how about the development method 'let's not break our main product for now, let's let people who want to hack on it do so as a side stream, and then when they think they have fixed the most important issues, _then_ they can propose putting the disruptive change into the main product'.
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