Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said: 
> AFAICS this discussion basically says "applications can't depend on
> firewalld, therefore they can't use firewalld APIs, therefore they wouldn't
> know whether the firewall restircts them, therefore firewalld must be
> removed".
> 
> The only given reason why the applications can't depend on firewalld is
> vague claims that the D-Bus API is somehow unusable, which is clearly false
> because firewall-cmd is using exactly the same API.

Well, just because an API *can* be coded to doesn't make it a good API. It
would be great to get more concrete descriptions of where the API fails.

Bill
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