On Aug 4, 2015 9:40 AM, "Paul W. Frields" <sticks...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 09:47:27AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > [...snip...] > > Perhaps it is time that we evaluate where i686 stands in Fedora more > > closely. For a starting suggestion, I would recommend that we do not > > treat it as a release blocking architecture. This is not the same as > > demotion to secondary architecture status. That has broader > > implications in both buildsys and ecosystem. My suggestion is > > narrowly focused so that builds still proceed as today, but if there > > is something broken for i686 it does not block the release of whatever > > milestone we are pursuing. > > > > (To be clear, I would support a move to secondary arch status for > > i686, but I am not suggesting it at this time.) > > So to put a finer point on this, our shipping i686 images depends on a > broader community effort beyond the kernel maintainers in the Fedora > Engineering team. That needs to precisely not mean more heroics on > the part of e.g. QE, rel-eng, etc. I have no idea what the pushback > on this issue is, but I'm sure this thread will tell us. But given > that Fedora is supposed to encourage such community effort, it would > be good to see what people are willing to do to build it. > > > Making i686 non-release blocking would actually match reality. None > > of the Fedora Editions appear at all concerned with i686. Cloud is > > demoting[3] i686 from its offering. Workstation has been fairly > > ambivalent about it and recommends x86_64. Server does the same. > > Given the lack of focus on it, and the fact that the broader community > > is not testing the development releases for i686, I believe this would > > be a good first step. > > "Ambivalent" is probably understated here. It's hard to imagine > people securing i686 hardware these days to run a Workstation > experience, after all. > > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1247382 > > [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-February/208368.html > > [3] https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/106 > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > -- >
Perhaps the best approach, from a community perspective, would be to promote a spin to Edition status and recommend *that* for i686 or low resource desktop use cases. --Pete
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