And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends... -- Marcin
2013/11/6 Marcin M. <marmistrz...@gmail.com> > If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what > bad can happen? > > -- > Marcin > > > 2013/11/6 Martin Grimme <martin.gri...@gmail.com> > >> Hi, >> >> 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 <guoyunhebr...@gmail.com>: >> > i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many >> > problems. >> >> I think the same. While having deps and libraries and everything is >> cool from a Linuxer's point of view, it will give a bad user >> experience and just cry for breaking things when updating the OS or >> other apps. >> >> You can either try to get the library into Nemo, or include it in your >> package or link to it statically. Those few kbytes wasted by this >> approach should be no real problem, but worth it, if it improves the >> user's experience and happiness with Sailfish devices. >> >> I remember people crying they could not update their N900 because of >> some library dependencies. Don't let this happen again. >> 1337 Linux h4x0rz in need of obscure libs and stuff will always find a >> workaround to fulfill their needs, e.g. with 3rd party repositories. >> :) >> >> Keep in mind that Sailfish wants to be attractive to regular users and >> user experience should be highly valued. >> >> >> My 2 cents, >> Martin >> >> >> > >> > 郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe) >> > http://guoyunhe.me/ >> > 在 2013-11-7 上午12:13,"Marcin M." <marmistrz...@gmail.com>写道: >> > >> >> It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a >> >> modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an >> >> in-app-purchase >> >> system, it wouldn't be so bad :) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Marcin >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan <mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com> >> >> >> >>> I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone >> >>> to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish. >> >>> >> >>> An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have >> >>> their >> >>> own applications, libraries and tools there. >> >>> >> >>> Just my 0.02 >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote: >> >>> > Hi, >> >>> > Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;( >> >>> > Regards, >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Marcin >> >>> > 2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto <[1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com> >> >>> > >> >>> > Hi, >> >>> > AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, >> you >> >>> > cannot depend on store packages. >> >>> > re, Jonni >> >>> > __________________________________________________________________ >> >>> > >> >>> > From: [2]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > [[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M. >> >>> > [[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com] >> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM >> >>> > To: Sailfish OS Developers >> >>> > Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store >> >>> > And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases, >> >>> > databases depend on the free app) >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Marcin >> >>> > 2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov <[5]coderusin...@gmail.com> >> >>> > >> >>> > Good point, thanks! >> >>> > >> >>> > On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to >> maintain >> >>> > the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile >> side >> >>> > (after that you can depend against it). >> >>> > re, Jonni >> >>> > ________________________________________ >> >>> > From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > [[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni >> Rainisto >> >>> > [[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com] >> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM >> >>> > To: Sailfish OS Developers >> >>> > Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store >> >>> > HI, >> >>> > AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only >> >>> > depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires >> >>> > field. >> >>> > re, Jonni >> >>> > ________________________________________ >> >>> > From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > [[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey >> >>> > Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com] >> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM >> >>> > To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store >> >>> > Please more information about Harbour: >> >>> > - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some >> >>> > libraries, >> >>> > required as depends for my appliction? >> >>> > - does it acts as repository? >> >>> > On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > Ahoy all, >> >>> > Today we're launching Jolla Harbour <[13]harbour.jolla.com>, the >> >>> > portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store. >> >>> > You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able >> >>> > to install them directly from their Jolla phones. >> >>> > Here are some details about Jolla Harbour: >> >>> > Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour: >> >>> > Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla >> >>> > Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have >> >>> > pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get >> >>> > started. To manage your account details, please visit >> >>> > [15]account.jolla.com. >> >>> > Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications: >> >>> > You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla >> >>> > Harbour. The submission process is the same. >> >>> > Start with free applications: >> >>> > At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free >> >>> > applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and >> we >> >>> > will keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop. >> >>> > Binary package naming: >> >>> > You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary >> >>> > package to Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on >> versioning >> >>> > at [16]http://semver.org. >> >>> > Preparing your metadata: >> >>> > Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app: >> >>> > - An app icon for the Store (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports >> >>> > 90x90px images; more details to follow soon) >> >>> > - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg) >> >>> > - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or >> >>> > jpg) >> >>> > Submission process: >> >>> > To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata >> >>> > for it and upload the binary and required images. After you have >> >>> > submitted your app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing. >> >>> > Quality Assurance testing: >> >>> > Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla >> >>> > devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a >> >>> > few days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email >> >>> > address you have registered to your Jolla account. >> >>> > If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email, >> >>> > [17]developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish >> >>> > developers mailing list at devel at [18]lists.sailfishos.org. >> >>> > Happy hacking! >> >>> > The Jolla Store Team >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> > >> >>> > References >> >>> > >> >>> > 1. mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com >> >>> > 2. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 3. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 4. mailto:marmistrz...@gmail.com >> >>> > 5. mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com >> >>> > 6. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 7. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 8. mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com >> >>> > 9. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 10. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 11. mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com >> >>> > 12. mailto:devel@lists.sailfishos.org >> >>> > 13. http://harbour.jolla.com/ >> >>> > 14. http://harbour.jolla.com/ >> >>> > 15. http://account.jolla.com/ >> >>> > 16. http://semver.org/ >> >>> > 17. mailto:developer-c...@jolla.com >> >>> > 18. http://lists.sailfishos.org/ >> >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > >
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