KV9U wrote: > We need to continue to advance our technological abilities and narrow > modes do this best. We already have the modes that operate about as > fast as they can for a given bandwidth and robustness. What we don't > have are modes that can adaptively change with the conditions > although some can have manual speed and other attribute changes.
That's true. Pactor II and III channel management strategies could give some hints. And for different modulations, RS ID seems to me a sort of "off band signaling" that may allow different modulations to be used in a package, not restricted to a something with a common ground, like what has been commonly available with Clover first, and Pactor later. I see it would be interesting to "register and publish" the codes that Patrick used by some "central authority" (maybe, Patrick himself). For me, it is similar to the I2C codes that the semiconductor industry uses, and Philips, as inventor of the concept, is the registering authority. > With the ability to use the internet to communicate world wide as we > are doing with this reflector, and doing it with substantial amounts > of data, there is no need for amateur radio to duplicate such > communications. That is why the packet system has died. It had a > short period of time where it was useful and when it became obsolete, > it was no longer supported by the necessary critical mass of hams. Man thinks as he lives. Where there are better alternatives, it would be silly to do otherwise. But the world is not homogeneous, and killing packet has left many hanging. Some may say that Internet forwarding is an alternative, it is not a valid one for me. Critical mass is important, and I see that wide participation is also important. It is a pity that we were not technologically prepared to keep it alive as an alternative. There, we lost the leadership as innovators. > As I mentioned earlier, the only possible reason for high volumes of > data on HF would be for emergency communications and that is a noble > goal. And as I have often said, in order to maintain an effective > emergency network of any type, it must be regularly exercised, > preferably on a daily basis. It must be working. And I was a witness of quite a bit of ham to ham solidarity in the BBS network. > But there is almost no interest in any HF network of this kind and I > have almost never found any other hams who want to do this. Even the > ARRL NTS/D seems to not be all that successful and does not seem to > be growing. For the large non ham public, nowadays, telephone (including cell phones, SMS, etc) and e-mail mostly solve that need. And Winlink for ham to public communications in remote places. Here, there is a slowly growing interest in ham BBS's, because some hardware has somehow become available. But it is a problem to feed such BBS's compared with the network we had in the 90's. > In the coming year we plan to have a presentation(s) on HF digital > operation, including standard keyboard modes and Winlink 2000. It would be interesting to learn about that perspective. > If we could send very large amounts of data via high speed digital > modes on amateur radio frequencies, especially on HF, what exactly > would we be sending that we are not already sending? In a day to day basis, I see BBS forwarding (and BBS networks) as a need that keeps a network alive and ready for other needs. Here, if I keep the message content whithin acceptable limits and safeguard that way my license (doable, I did for more than a decade), radio is easier than having to ask for permission to set up Internet links, which also needs financing to keep links running. 73 de Jose, CO2JA -- MSc.Jose Angel Amador Fundora Departamento de Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingenieria Electrica, CUJAE Calle 114 #11901 e/ 119 y 127 Marianao 19390, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba Tel:(53 7) 266-3352 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________ XIII Convención Científica de Ingeniería y Arquitectura 28/noviembre al 1/diciembre de 2006 Cujae, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/convencion