I have not followed the whole thread but I wouldn't be too sure to 
believe that
Windows flaws exist per se and are not a result of agreements with somebody
else, as some conspiracy theories state.

Just in case, it is safer to use a third party firewall, or run a 
"bastillized"  *n?x.

Jose, CO2JA

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kd4e wrote:

> >> 7. While Microsoft made a passing attempt at retrofitting
> >> security into its early operating systems, they didn't get any
> >> money for
>  this. >> So, we should be extremely grateful that they actually fixed
>  security >> problems for 8 years for Windows 98. Other companies
>  would not
> >> support any software for that length of time.
> >
> > Thanks Jim for what is, to me, the most intelligent post related to
> > operating systems that I've seen on this list.
>
>  Except that it is not entirely accurate.
>
>  Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix as did BSD.
>  Unix is very old.
>
>  MS *chose* to not implement security due to profit considerations and
>  the impossbility of security because of the
>  wide-open-everything-executes-in-root structure. It was a marketing
>  and technological nightmare -- I remember it well as a systems
>  manager and consultant.
>
>  "extremely grateful"? You have to be kidding!
>
>  Bill Gates marketed and promoted secure and stable and while he raked
>  in billions he shipped insecure and unstable.
>
>  How soon we forget.
>
>  It would be enlightening to read a list of what is worth doing, for
>  99% of average users, that is not available free under Linux.
>
>  OS = Free Office apps = Free Internet apps = Free Music processing =
>  Free Video processing = Free Games = Free
>
>  And to get this back on topic ...
>
>  Ham digital apps = Free Ham antenna calculators = Free Ham logging =
>  Free Ham DX spotting = Free Ham HT programming apps = Free
>
>  Now I donate to many Linux developers because I want to support them.
>  It is not about Free to me, it is about choice and integrity and
>  freedom from abusive OS contracts and limitations.
>
>  Back to digital radio.
>
>  --
>
>  Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E
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