I should point out that in my tests of the Alpha  version PackinkW (with 
Winmor) the busy detect worked.  I only tried it a few times , and not under 
all conditions, but several times WINMOR told me the frequency appeared busy 
and asked me if I really wanted to start a transmit.

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "WD8ARZ" <wd8...@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Dave, I was there during those scamp beta testing adventures too
> ..... and I remember that part of the evaluation. Various levels were played
> with, akin to a sensitivity level. Bottom line to me was that when the level
> made it 'work' ie, not transmit when the frequency was 'active', throughput
> dropped way back.... Remember those that would intentionally put 'activity'
> on the frequency to kick in the transmit control system so we had zero
> activity with scamp ????
> 
> No cynicism involved at all, just the real world.
> 
> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
> (Grateful for those who are doing for all of us what they do, giving us what
> we have today .... hi)
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave AA6YQ" <aa...@...>
> To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [digitalradio] No FCC data bandwidth limit on HF Re: USA ham 
> rules
> >
> 
> > re "The Winmor implementation in PaclinkW  (much to the dismay of the
> > naysayers) has busy channel transmit control enabled."
> >
> > I and others strongly encouraged Rick KN6KB to provide a busy frequency
> > detector in SCAMP. We were optimistic when he agreed to give it a shot, 
> > and
> > thrilled by the effectiveness demonstrated during the SCAMP beta; even 
> > Rick
> > was surprised by the results. When SCAMP disappeared and WinLink failed to
> > upgrade its PMBOs with the SCAMP busy frequency detector, cynicism 
> > returned.
> > Many concluded that the WinLink organization simply prefers to keep "its"
> > PMBO frequencies clear by QRMing "trespassers", rather than having to wait
> > for the frequency to become available.
> snip snip
> >     73,
> >     Dave, AA6YQ
>


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