I AGREE !
However not all contesters are a PAIN IN THE *## just the few that push others
out of the way and interfer with daly QSO and nets ......
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Dan Hensley <kc9...@att.net> wrote:
From: Dan Hensley <kc9...@att.net>
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 10:02 AM
Amateur radio is not for contesting. Amateur radio is not a sport, it is for
communications. ..meaningful communications. Exchanging signal reports and
series numbers or such other drivel is not what amateur radio was intended for.
We need to start getting back to RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS, which when you put
them together gives us the concept of actually using radio to communicate with
each other, You contesters want to do this stupid garbage on the radio, then
you need to petition the FCC for contest radio spectrum for which a special
license would be issued.
Then, you can exchange all of your meaningless non-communications related
garbage to your heart's content. You contesters are making us all look bad. How
about some of you actually getting outside and exercising while using radio the
correct way? Go hang a wire through some trees and actually have something
called a conversation. Take your HT with you on a walk and actually get to know
your fellow local hams, attract others to amateur radio while showing them that
we actually know how to have conversations.
I know that the concept of actually having a conversation with people is hard
for most of you to wrap your mind around, but you should really try it! It
works! You can actually make a few more friends! A conversation happens when
two people actually spend time together in a social manner while one person
talks and the other listens, then the one who was listening responds with
meaningful replies on an actual topic based on everyday reality.
Friendships happen when two people actually connect. You gotta have human
connection man! Yes, there are actually people out in the world who would like
to know you if you just think about more than contesting and actually use some
social skills. It works just fine when you try!
Let's put the communications back into radio, and goodwill back into the
amateur meaning of amateur radio, and bring back a focus on elmering so new
hams can actually learn a technical skill instead of just having books shoved
in their faces without any incentive to learn.
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, KH6TY <kh...@comcast. net> wrote:
From: KH6TY <kh...@comcast. net>
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 1:16 PM
Greg,
PSK31 is a very narrow signal and unless every transceiver has a TCXO, the
drift may be too much for the AFC to follow. PSK31 is also very subject to
Doppler distortino. In South Caronina, we use DominoEx 8 or DominoEx4 for 2m,
but Olivia or Contestia works even better with the mulitpath and Doppler
disturbances you often encounter. Contestia 64/1000 has proven to be the very
best digital mode for UHF and VHF weak signsl and I run a daily schedule using
that mode on 432.
The problem is that probably nobody else is on any of the digital modes on 2m
to talk to, but you could arrange some skeds. I suggest you use Contestia
64/1000 for the best results. Unfortunately, only fldigi currently supports
Contestia 64/1000, so instead, try Contestia 32/1000 which DM780 and Multipsk
both support. You will lose 3 dB in S/N, but it will still work pretty well. At
least it will survive the QSB and Doppler disturbances on VHF.
It would be great to see more people using Contestia on 144 and 432 weak signal
work. Contestia will copy down to the noise when SSB is no longer able to be
understood, and, at 30 wpm, is twice as fast as Olivia. You need at least a
1000 Hz signal bandwidth to fight the Doppler disturbances.
73, Skip KH6TY
On 7/10/2010 7:38 AM, GregCT wrote:
National level. My hopes are high, but i'm not sure if the effort of lugging
the laptop along and keeping it powered up will be worth the result..
Any thoughts, ideas, comments that can you can send my way are appreciated,
both 'for' and 'against'... and Thank you in advance for all that have any
input/help advice to contribute
73
Greg
N1KPW
